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Edmonds Aerospace - Tinee

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Contributed by John Lee

edmond_tineeBrief:
This is a low power, 13mm motor mounted rocket glider.

I have had uniformly bad luck with every glider I have attempted. For the most part, the just crash. In one case it crashed and burned. In the case of the Cosmos Mariner, I just kind of lost heart and it has sat partially assembled for over a year. I have, however, heard good things about Edmond's Aerospace and decided to give it another try. I had several of their kits sitting around and decided to start small. Assuming I actually get it to glde, I wouldn't want to damage my reputation by walking very far.

edmond_tinee_motormountConstruction:
The kit comes with a single instruction page which is more illustration than anything else. If the instructions are any guide, it should go together very quickly.

Along with the instruction was a short 13mm motor tube with an ejection port already cut, a blasa nose cone, a balsa body, a sheet of balsa with die cut cannards and an 1/8" launch lug.

I started off by gluing the nose cone into the motor tube. The illustration makes clear that the cone goes on the end with the vent hole.

With that done, the motor tube was glued to the body. The instructions do include text to say that it is important that the motor tube be straight.

edmond_tinee_nakedNext up was the forward cannard. I test fitted it and found that the match was fine. I glued it in place and tried to ensure that it was straight and plumb. The after cannard, the larger of the two, was handled in the same way. Then it was just a matter of gluing on the vertical stabilizers to the after cannard and the launch lug to the motor tube.

The package claimed that assembly would take less than an hour. It took me more time to write this up, about 10 minutes.

PROs: very easy glider build
CONs: could use a bit more advice about trimming
edmond_tinee_dyedFinishing:
I know that it is not considered necessary to put a finish on gliders. Still, I never liked the looks of naked rockets and wanted to do something. One suggestion I got was to use Rit® dye thinned with denatured alcohol. I decided to give this a try.

I was unsure of the proportions but used approximately a 50:50 mixture and brushed it on with a sponge brush. I probably should have cut it a little more.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

edmond_tinee_onthepadFlight:
I only got one flight out of the initial outing. I used a 1/2A3-2 and had to put just a touch of masking tape on it to keep it from falling out. It was not "friction retention" except in the sense that I wanted to retain the motor until ignition.

Right after clearing the rod, it veered over at an angle. I would guess that it made about a 40 degree angle with the ground. It popped the motor. It then began a very wide glide that was not a circle. It was more in the shape of an eccentric ellipse. When it was about 10 feet above the ground, the nose suddenly dropped and the rest of the glider followed. There was no damage.

Flight Rating: 3 out of 5

Summary:
This is the first glider I have even come close to making work properly. It is an easy kit and a good introduction to boost gliders. I need to give it some more thought and practice trimming but I am satisfied.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2001-02-18Kenneth Johnson's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- Wow! I really love this little glider! Not one of the recommended motors, but GREAT altitude, and...
    2003-03-30Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Like previous flight, a straight boost to 200', then looped during coast. This time it was only...
    2003-05-03Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Boosted with a wicked roll into the wind, then flattened out during coast. Ejected just before it...
    2003-05-25Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Finally found the perfect engine for this bird. Screamed up to about 200 feet and started to loop,...
    2003-06-15Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Beautiful boost, rolled over at apogee, then ejected. Nice gentle glide downwind about 200 feet....
    2003-07-06Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Wiggled during boost then rolled flat at apogee. On ejection, the glider shot forward into...
    2003-07-27Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Squirrelly again. Straight boost up, then at about 100 feet abruptly turned straight down. At...
    2003-08-24Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Short quick boost, stalled at apogee, then ejected. Glided to a nice landing.
    2003-10-12Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Fast boost with 1&1/2 barrel roll heading downwind. At ejection, glider shot forward, gliding...
    2004-04-10Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Fast boost, arcing down-wind. Wallowed a bit until ejection, then glided down-wind with steep...
    2004-04-27Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Another good flight.
    2004-05-22Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Fast boost with arc downwind. After ejection, glider turned crosswind and gently glided with a bit...
    2004-06-13 Bill Eichelberger's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/4A3-3- No glide, ejected just above terra firma. This was due to operator error, not a defect in a great...
    2004-08-08Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Angled sharply downwind as soon as it left rod, but then straightened up for the rest of the...
    2004-10-09Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Drag race against another Tinee. Fast boost with arc to west. After ejection, performed a quick...
    2005-04-03Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Immediately pitched down after leaving rod. Pitched up into large loop after burnout, with...
    2005-04-03Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Zipped off pad then lost sight of it for a second. After popping engine, settled into beautiful...
    2005-04-10Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Fast boost, ejected at top of arc. Headed downwind for a while, then turned into wind and stalled...
    2005-05-21Alan Tuskes's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-2- Very straight boost, interrupted by an overly energetic ejection charge that severed the boom...
    2005-07-01Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- V quick of pad, weather coocked and flew horizonal under power, ejected motor and glider down...
    2005-07-12Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Did a full 180 degree arch under power, then popped its motor at about thirty foot and did a nice...
    2005-07-12Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Flow much higher, and straighter this time, spent about twenty seconds gliding in a gental right...
    2005-09-22Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Fast boost, arched back, nice slow glide into wind
    2005-09-26Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- fast boost, interesting glide as it responds well to gusts of winds.
    2005-10-11Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Staight boost desite the wind. ejected smoothly and glided in at a steepish angle, about a 10...
    2006-01-08Todd Mullin's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Snapped off power pod after doing large loop at boost. Hit ground under power.
    2006-01-08Todd Mullin's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4-
    2006-01-08Todd Mullin's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4-
    2006-01-28Todd Mullin's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Snapped off pod at the same point it was repaired at from power dive at ejection. Pod lost. ...
    2006-03-03Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- perfect slow flat glide.
    2006-05-21Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Straight boost then partial arc before ejection. Porpoised several times during glide. Safe...
    2006-06-16Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-4- fast boost, 4 seconds too long, glide phase lasted 12 seconds
    2006-06-16Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- really fast boost, ejection charge did not eject the motor completely, tinnee just managed to pull...
    2006-06-16Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- good flight 15seconds glide, delay needs to be 2 or 3 seconds max
    2006-08-20Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Strangely short boost, then good straight coast. After ejection, settled into a beautiful...
    2007-03-11Chris Gonnerman's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Came over a bit more than I'd like before popping the engine, and if it weren't for my wife's...
    2007-05-06Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- engine failed to eject, steep dive no damage
    2007-08-29Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- 25 second glide - followed by a good walk to retrieve.
    2007-09-03Chris Gonnerman's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- I added a little weight on one side of the main wing, in hopes of inducing it to turn. Instead, it...
    2007-09-03Chris Gonnerman's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- I removed the weight (since it obviously hadn't helped any) and launched it again. Well, it did...
    2007-09-14Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- 28 second glide
    2007-09-24Ned Dukes's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- The rocket went up and looped on its accent. it thens tarted to change direction quite rapidly,...
    2007-09-24Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- loop the loop, 18 seconds
    2007-10-14Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- looped on boost, settled into a glide 20 meters of the ground -8 second flight!
    2008-07-04Bob Cox's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Quick boost with a roll. After ejection, settled into a steep spiral dive. 9 sec.
    2008-09-20 John Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Maiden flight, angled ascent, fairly decent glide, at least it was the best I've ever been able to...
    2008-09-29Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- arched boost - performed well in the winds.
    2008-12-01Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- steep glide in. 7 seconds
    2009-05-23Morgan Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Launched into bug loop. Motor ejected while upside down. Shot upward, then settled into nice...
    2009-07-19 John Lee's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/4A3-3- Got all of about 15 feet up and then spit the motor. All I can figure is that it thought it was a...
    2009-09-28Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- good flight, landed but recovered from a tree.
    2009-09-28Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- really high flight, glider a long way, all the way over to the school roof.
    2009-11-21 John Lee's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Squirrely flight until ejection then nice glide
    2010-08-22 Alan Boldt's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA3-4- Great flight. Spiraled a couple wide arcs going up. Fluttered a little falling belly down for a...
    2010-10-10Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- motor did not clear the mount tube. nose dived in.
    2011-04-24Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- good flight
    2011-04-24Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- another good flight
    2011-04-24Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- third flight of the day
    2011-05-06Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- performed well again
    2011-05-29Bill Eichelberger's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-4- Oops. Wrong motor. I meant to grab the 2 second delay. Ejection charge drove it into the ground.
    2011-05-29Bill Eichelberger's Edmonds Aerospace Tinee1/2A3-2- Much better flight. Glide phase interrupted by a misplaced hill.
    2011-06-15Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- Flew into a tree - it's still there.
    2011-09-26Matt Gillard's Edmonds Aerospace TineeA10-3- short glide

    Comments:

    K.R.J. (April 1, 2001)

    My son won a Tinee in a contest hosted by Lawn Dart Rocketry and SoAR. The quality of the kit blew me away! Everything fit perfectly, and assembly took a whopping 10 minutes, not counting glue-drying time. I couldn't find any of the recommended motors, but it flies GREAT on an A3-4T. Even after smacking a tree limb it suffered no damage. This kit should be on every glider fan's wish list.

    D.J. (July 1, 2001)

    Flew my Tinee for the first time on 06/22/01; Chose an A3-4T for first flight, and what a site that was. During Boost, the Tinee did 3 or 4 high speed barrel rolls all over the sky, then settled out during coast. When the ejection charge blew, it was as if someone had flung the Tinee out of a slingshot. It settled into a beautiful, straight glide, and flew for about 3/4 of a mile (!). After searching for about 15 minutes, it was finally found by one of the 4 additional searchers. All in all, easy to build and a blast to fly. SUGGESTIONS-I am painting my Tinee Chartreuse or Neon Red, as natural balsa blends in much too well with a large grassy field mowed to about 6 inches. I'll gladly sacrifice a little extra weight for the chance of finding it. Also, I'm going to go with a 1/4A3-3T next time.

    G.A.D (June 25, 2002)

    Our Tinee liked to waggle a bit on boost, but always stayed more or less vertical. The glide was very nice. We made the mistake of trying an A3 at the last launch. After gliding for a while the Tinee lodged in the very top of the tallest tree around (and they grow tall in California!). That glider was well up there. We'll build another and stick to 1/2 motors.

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