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Estes - Der Red Max (KC-2)

Manufacturer:Estes

Contributed by David O\'Nan

Estes #0651 - Der Red Max
(Contributed - by David O'Nan)

Rocket PicBrief:
Old skill level 2 Estes kit that was introduced in 1971 as a Citation Series kit and continued in production through 1986. Always wanted one back in my first incarnation as a rocketeer, and decided to clone one when I came across an old Mean Machine nose cone. Using that cone and my "bin-o-parts" made cloning the kit a snap.

Construction:
Instructions (downloaded from JimZ) were typical Estes in quality but decidedly more fun with the "fake German language" stuff -- check JimZ if you don't know what I'm talking about. You may also want to check out the plans for the Der Big Red Max, as they contain many of the dimensions for both kits. I cut a piece of BT-60 to 9 1/8" per the plans, and cut the fins from 1/8" balsa. I debated for awhile whether to put in a 24mm motor mount, but decided to keep it stock and use RMS if I wanted a D launch (more on that later). Construction was typical 3FNC according to the instructions, using carpenter's wood glue throughout. White glue was used for filleting.

Rocket PicFinishing:
I used Elmer's Fill'n'Finish for filling the seams and the balsa grain. After sanding, I used a few coats of primer sanding between coats. Finish coat was gloss red Wal-Mart brand on the bottom section, and gloss black Wal-Mart brand for the nose cone. I had to do some sanding on the old nose cone to get a nice smooth finish. I noticed some thin spots during this process but didn't think anything about it at the time. The decals were ordered from JimZ and were excellent (I also highly recommend Tom Prestia's decals). The finished product looks great and never fails to generate a comment or two from BARs when I fly it at the local GAMMA section launches.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
Engine retention is typical Estes motor clip, although as is my practice I used a dremel cut-off wheel to cut off the extra on the hook. I then mount the hook with the cut part internal so the setup looks like the old Estes hooks. Original Estes recommended motors (per 1984 catalog) are B4-2 (1st), B4-4, B6-2, B6-4, B8-5, C6-5, and C6-7. My first flight was 20 Dec 98 at the GAMMA monthly launch, on a C6-5. After prepping with cellulose wadding, it was ready to go. Flight was really nice, although not as high as I had expected. And of course it generated a lot of comments as these are not seen that often but everyone pretty much knows them. The same day I launched it on a D13-7 reload, and the flight was AWESOME! Rocket PicHowever, the old nose cone just couldn't handle the air pressure from the hotter motor and ended up cracking in several places (see pictures). Messed up the finish some, but what the heck -- it was a great flight. To date the rocket has flown 10 times, all on C6-3/5 engines except the one reload flight. All flights have been excellent; generally very straight and little if any weathercocking.

Recovery:
Shock cord is typical Estes paper mount, with a long piece of 3/8" sewing elastic, attached to the nose cone with a snap swivel. An 18" parachute is attached to the nose cone with another swivel. Piece of cake. Recovery has been very good every time. Yet to sustain any damage (due to recovery anyway), although the 18" chute is somewhat large and I've gotten a lot of drift on windy days. A 12" chute would probably work well also.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
This is a great rocket and a great conversation piece among all the BARs out there who remember it as one of the all-time favorites from Estes. Even though it's only a 3FNC rocket, it's dimensions and decor make it a great looking rocket. PRO: looks, nostalgia, simple to build, flies nicely. CON: (reaching) 12" chute might be better, especially in wind; old nose cone can't handle RMS flights.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2000-01-01MikeyR's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- 12 parachute Very nice flight. Nominal.
    2000-09-30Kevin Johnson's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- A clone based on BT-56. Nice performer.
    2000-10-01Kevin Johnson's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)A8-3- Small field today so chose the A. Good flight.
    2000-10-14Kevin Johnson's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5- 1st flight on a C and 3rd flight overall.
    2002-03-24Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5- Great first flight but landed in a large puddle/small pond. Rescued before major damage occurred.
    2002-05-19Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- Nice flight, but somewhat underpowered.
    2002-06-03Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- Thought the Max was in trouble for a second there. I like the C5-3 better, but I was out and the...
    2002-07-14Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C5-3- Another good rocket for the C5-3 engine. Higher that I had expected considering the field. I'll...
    2003-06-01Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- Great flight considering the field limitations.
    2003-06-21Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5- Another great flight. A last minute breeze during recovery kept the tragedy of an access road...
    2003-07-05Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- A command performance. Some visitors to the field took a liking to Max and you have to please the...
    2003-07-06Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- Kid's launch. This was flown for the second day on command. (One of the kids kept calling it the...
    2003-09-20 Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- A great small field rocket on a B engine. The assembly of kids from the group home loved it also.
    2004-09-11Scott Turnbull's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-3- Yet another flight of Old Red.
    2005-07-02Scott Turnbull's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-3- Base of nosecone separated from tip. Rocket recovered via chute. Cone recovered undamaged.
    2005-08-27Clive Davis's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- Great small field flyer. Those big fins and short body give it a nice slow liftoff for its size. ...
    2005-09-10Scott Turnbull's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5-
    2006-07-29Scott Turnbull's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-4- The Old Man contributes to the alphabet sequence (a,b,c,d,etc)
    2007-08-25Dwayne Shmel's Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5- Maiden flight. Went straight up with good recovery.
    2008-06-21Dwayne Shmel's Der Red Max (KC-2)C6-5- Very S-L-O-W descent on stock chute. Good thing the winds had died down. Last flight of the...
    2008-08-23Dwayne Shmel's Der Red Max (KC-2)B6-6- Perfect flight.
    2009-01-17John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max (KC-2)D12-5- First flight of the Der Blue Max, 24mm. No mods other than 24mm mount. Boost was straight and fast...
    2009-03-28Dwayne Shmel's Der Red Max (KC-2)B4-2-

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