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Estes - Cosmic Cobra (1262) [2002-2008]

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Contributed by Greg Deeter

Editor's Note: This review does not consider the helicopter portion of the rocket.

Rocket PicBrief:
This is one of the new ones from Estes. This kit seemed to to yelling "STREAMER" to me. The plastic forward swept fins are strong, and just seem perfect for streamer recovery. So, I took the helicopter parts and put them away for a later day. This reduced the weight, so now my Cosmic Cobra is only 2.4 oz completed.

Construction:
This kit comes with the BT-56 sized body tube (gloss yellow) and black plastic nose cone, two piece plastic fin section, launch lug that is shaped for the body, 1/8" x 2 foot shock cord, 12" plastic Estes parachute, three rotor blades, a blade ring, (4) rubber bands and and a large purple wild looking decal.

This took about 10 minutes. The two piece plastic fin unit made it super simple to tie a knot in the end of a two foot piece of 1/8" Kevlar® cord, and using CA as I did on the whole rocket, I glued the cord in between the two halves of the fin unit. Attached a small snap swivel to the end of that, then added the 24" x 1/8 shock cord, and selected a silver mylar 2" x 56" streamer. The launch lug is unlike any I have ever seen before. It form fits onto the shape of the body tube.

Finishing:
Since you don't see many black "stock" nose cones, at first glance this rocket looks like it was painted. The gloss yellow body looks great with the black nose and fins. I left it that simple and did not use the wild looking purple decals. I think it looks cool just like it is. I have never felt good about the Estes method of attaching the shock cord with a paper mount inside the body tube. Those eventually come loose and in many cases they cause the parachute to get stuck. So to improve this kit, it should come with a 1-2 foot 1/8" Kevlar® cord which is super simple to attach to the motor mount/fin unit with this kit. I was surprised the shock cord that came with it was 2 feet long as I expected one only 1 foot long. Still, I feel it should be at least 4 feet long. The gloss yellow body tube feels very strong.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
I plan on flying it every time I go out for a launch day and I will experiment with different types of streamers. I will bet I can get at least 50 flights out of it with no damage, in fact it would be interesting to try an Aerotech D21 in it. I am sure it would hold up. My first flight was with a Quest C6-5. Took a few seconds to light and then shot straight up and out of sight. I thought I had lost it until I saw the red puff and silver streamer. I had put a few dashes of red line chalk in on top of the wadding and that really helped to see where it was. It came down about 500 feet from here and seemed to drift quite a bit for a streamer.

The second and third (final flight) were at a larger field and I switched out the streamer for a parachute for the second flight with a C6-5. The last (3rd) flight when I lost it had the streamer back in it, and I believe I either put too much line chalk in it, or the D21-7 was too much power as it cocked sideways quite a bit and went out of sight in just seconds. I saw a huge cloud of red line chalk and that was it. So much for getting 50 flights out of it!

Recovery:
Was recovered in perfect condition.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
The only streamer kit I ever flew before was an Astron Sprint back in the early 80's. Back then I had imagined a rocket with forward swept and strong plastic fins, as my Sprint always seemed to pop a fin on landing. I had bought this Cosmic Cobra because I was curious about how the helicopter nose cone worked, but upon looking at the parts, I quickly realized that this is a perfect kit for the streamer testing I wanted to try. I may add the 'copter blades to the nose cone just to try it, but that adds almost 30% more weight to the rocket. Since I used snap swivels, the recover system can be changed out in just seconds.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2002-07-14Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraC5-3- Great flight. Chute didn't deploy because of packing problem associated with copter blades, but no...
    2002-08-28Robert Vaughan's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-6- Lawn dart! Delay was way too long, ejected on the ground and popped the rocket out of the dirt. 1...
    2002-08-28Robert Vaughan's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Second lawn dart. Scorched copter blades, tube crunched in middle, ripped at the top, and broke 2...
    2002-09-01Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-6- Much better recovery. Nose cone helicoptered in in the up position.
    2002-11-27Greg Deeter's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Straight up, nice flight. Used 12 Estes plastic chute.Landed about 200 feet away, perfect...
    2002-11-27Greg Deeter's Estes Cosmic CobraD21-7- D21-7 Blue Thunder. Perhaps too much line chalk made it unstable.Took off super fast and...
    2003-04-27Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraC5-3- The only rocket to survive undamaged when my carrier fell out of the back of the van. Everything...
    2003-05-03Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Slow boost with slight downwind arc. Streamer got tangled with copter for a few seconds, but then...
    2003-05-18Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Nice slow boost, arcing into wind. Copter nose separated cleanly without tangling in 54x2 mylar...
    2003-05-25Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Long slow boost straight into sun. The mylar 2x54 streamer worked great again, and the body landed...
    2003-05-31David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Great first model rocket flight, but melted the chute.
    2003-05-31David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Another great flight, another melted chute
    2003-06-01Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Best flight ever. Everything worked as advertised.
    2003-06-15Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Nice high boost with slight weather-cocking. On 54x2 streamer, the body glided tail-first upwind...
    2003-07-06Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Nice straight boost. Clean separation. With 2x54in streamer, the booster has significant...
    2003-07-06 Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Kid's launch. The nose cone again recovered in the up position. Looks cool that way, but I don't...
    2003-07-27Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Slow arcing boost into the wind. Perfect ejection. Copter drifted downwind with 12 second hang...
    2003-09-27Chan Stevens's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3-
    2004-04-05Forrest Henry's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Lawn dart! Everything is just too tight in there (and we packed it as loose as we could)! Rocket...
    2004-04-10Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Arced into wind. Wiggled a lot during boost. Good copter deployment. Mylar streamer got a bit...
    2004-04-19Eric Maher's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Worked perfectly. The helicopter recovery of the nosecone was very cool.
    2004-06-06Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Nice boost straight up. Should have angled rod into wind more. Booster drifted across two soccer...
    2004-06-20Kyle Hancock's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Both chute and coptor deployed OK.
    2004-07-24Brian Mercer's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-4- Nice flight, until it turned into a pile driver in the parking lot. I may replace the nose cone...
    2004-08-08Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-4- Slow arching boost and coast. Clean separation. Copter landed safe on grass after nice spinning...
    2004-10-31Mark Muir's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Helicopter nose cone ejected but parachute did not. Rear section core sampled but no damage at all.
    2004-11-11Mark Muir's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Nose cone helicoptered back but engine side of tube didn't get a parachute ejection so it lawn...
    2005-01-21Andrew Grippo's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Wind held down altitude but nose cone was able to begin spinning just before it landed.
    2005-01-21Andrew Grippo's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Good flight and delay. High altitude allowed nose cone enough time to helicopter perfectly to...
    2005-04-17Chase Hrncir's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Broke the Curse of the Cobra. Nobody else in the Challenger club has had any luck with these, but...
    2005-05-08Chase Hrncir's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- First launch ever at Sportflyers Estates, Brookshire, TX. Great flight. A little windy so it...
    2005-05-18John Chapman's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- After two COMPLETE failures, we modified by gluing BT-5 tube into the nose cone, with screw eye,...
    2005-08-21Bob Cox's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-4- Slow takeoff with wiggle during boost. Angled into wind and ejected very late, about 60 feet up. ...
    2005-08-27John Chapman's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Modified cobra with no chute and attached cone/rotor - deployed without problem. Crepe paper...
    2005-09-10Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- First flight of rocket built with my daughter. Helicopter recovery of the nose cone is quite a...
    2005-10-10Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Nice flight on a cold, damp, rain shortened day.
    2005-10-15Bill Eichelberger's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Always entertaining. Flight was great. Recovery a little less so due to parachute failure, but...
    2005-11-03Andrew Grippo's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Rocket rod whipped off pad and then nose cone stuck at deployment. Lawn dart with top section of...
    2005-11-05Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Nice high flight. Body and helicopter nose cone landed very close together
    2006-01-27Mark Edwards's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Inaugural flight of the CC. Helicopter nose cone deployed successfully. Parachute failed to eject,...
    2006-02-12Joe Policy's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Fairly straight flight, very nice. Kids have fun chasing the helicopter/nose cone.
    2006-03-09Dave Bishop's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Despite the high wind, excellent launch and great flight of helicopter section.
    2006-03-19Tom+Maggie Brogan's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Built last nite Launched this am. very windy. Nice straight boost, WC slightly, looked great....
    2006-04-20David Culp's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Student forgot to screw motor retainer on. Ejected motor at apogee. Lawn darted into asphalt,...
    2006-04-30Tom+Maggie Brogan's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- 2nd flight for this rocket. Arced back over our heads over the trees and headed for the highway!...
    2006-05-18David Culp's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Love this rocket, perfect flight in almost no wind. Straigh up boost, good seperation and easy...
    2006-05-27Chan Stevens's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5-
    2006-06-04Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4-
    2006-06-25Jillian+Benjamin Fried's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Nose helicopter apparatus did not deploy and parachute melted (oops forgot wadding - wouldn't have...
    2006-08-12Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4-
    2006-09-12Lucas Kalathas's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Well, awesome takeoff, but the nosecone never ejected. Rocket came down fast and hard, ending up...
    2006-10-10Mal McClenaghan's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Parachute didn't deploy. ? packed too tight, space is at a premium in this airframe. Lawn dart....
    2006-10-10Mal McClenaghan's Estes Cosmic CobraA8-3- Oops! Loaded wrong motor. Nowhere near enough thrust for this rocket. Recovered without damage.
    2006-11-18Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-4- Chute tangled. Motor is a little weak for this rocket.
    2007-01-11Mark Edwards's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Failed to eject the NC. Lawn Dart, but repairable. Need to cutoff a couple inches of upper part...
    2007-02-18Kyle Hancock's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4-
    2007-04-09Mal McClenaghan's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Textbook flight. Great recovery. Our first flight with the parachute tucked in between the rotor...
    2007-07-01Taylor Gonnerman's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Perfect flight. The helicopter recovery of the nose cone is a real crowd pleaser, especially if...
    2007-08-12Mark Van+Luvender's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-2- Excellent flight - good parachute, great helicopter rotation on the nose cone.
    2007-09-16Bob Harrington's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Parachute tangled and didn't open but suffered no damage.
    2008-06-08Mal McClenaghan's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- First flight after repair. Textbook flight and recovery.
    2008-06-14JST's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Ascended to about 950 feet. Ejection charge failed to kick nosecone or chute out. Flight quickly...
    2008-07-13David Montgomery's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5600 feet Excellent flight with good autorotation of nosecone/rotors and recovery via parachute of main body...
    2008-11-02David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4168 feet I flew the Cobra with a MaxTrax altitude capsule and 2 standard tracking streamers. I would guess...
    2008-11-02David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- This time, the MaxTrax capsule failed because it fell horizontal. This flight was much higher than...
    2008-11-08 David Montgomery's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5600 feet Perfect from liftoff to recovery; both sections returned as designedwith no damage.
    2008-11-11David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4-
    2009-01-01 Jim Bassham's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- First flight - worked as advertised. It is hard to pack chute and blades into body tube. Longer...
    2009-01-01 Jim Bassham's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Everything worked, but blades popped off the nose cone on landing. Glue bond was never that great.
    2009-01-11 Jim Bassham's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Nose cone flew fine, but completely fried the chute on the rocket. Came down VERY hard, but...
    2009-01-15David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- A perfect flight. I flew the booster without a parachute; it glides down nicely and safely with...
    2009-02-21John Venable's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-7- No Helicopter blades jut a small stock chute. Nice flight to maybe 600'. Gonna rebuild her to fly...
    2009-05-21Jim Bassham's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- 4th flight of the Cosmic Cobra. Replaced 'chute, tried packing it between the rotor blades. Nose...
    2009-06-30Alan Kaiser's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- I didn't see this one too well because it shot up directly over and behind me. Nice flight though....
    2009-07-11John Bergsmith's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Flight number 2 on the delay. I like the 3 second delay better. However, still a cool flight.
    2009-07-11John Bergsmith's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Once you learn the trick to packing the chute, it's a reliable performer. Heli deployed and was...
    2009-11-27Alan Kaiser's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Great flight and recovery. The copter cone came down exactly as expected.
    2010-03-30John Bishop's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Better flight, loaded 'chute under rotors. Nice ejection and helicopter effect. When I found the...
    2010-03-30John Bishop's Estes Cosmic CobraB6-4- Maiden flt. Seemed underpowered on B6-4. Packed chute between blades. Ejection didn't fully pop...
    2010-04-03John Bishop's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-5- Flew without parachute. Good recovery of body section, but took my eye off the helicopter. Lost...
    2010-07-31James Weaver's Estes Cosmic CobraB4-4- Seemed to struggle off of the pad. Delay was way too long for motor/rocket combo. Perfect...
    2011-09-10Alan Kaiser's Estes Cosmic CobraA8-3- Nose cone jammed at ejection and the rocket came in and dug into the ground. Body tube was split...
    2011-12-17David Sindel's Estes Cosmic CobraC6-3- Took off at an angle.
    2012-01-07Ed Rodrigo's Cosmic Cobra (1262)C6-5- Due to low wind conditions and additional weight due to length modification, decided to use a C6-5...
    2012-01-07Ed Rodrigo's Cosmic Cobra (1262)C6-5- Works well with C6-5. Strong weathercocking.
    2012-01-07Ed Rodrigo's Cosmic Cobra (1262)C6-5- Very strong weathercocking and delayed ejection charge led to chute deployment about 25 feet off...

    Comments:

    G.A.D. (September 3, 2002)

    We have had a hard time figuring out how to get a good clean deployment from this rocket. On the first flight the nosecone separated but the ?copter blades barely had time to fold out. The parachute was partially melted and failed to deploy fully. The second flight was a good one. On the third flight the combination of chute and ?copter blades was too much to eject and it lawn-darted. [Note to EMRR, I'll send a Pic] I'm considering how rebuild this for more consistent ejection. I may lengthen the body tube and use a piston of some sort.

    J.R. (December 11, 2003)

    I think this is an excellent rocket. It's fun to fly and watch this rocket's recovery. Especially on a C6-5. The parachute melting annoyed me a lot though.

    unknown (December 18, 2003)

    This is a great rocket. But it's basically a E2X version of the Hyper X.

    F.H. (April 6, 2004)

    The picture above looks EXACTLY like mine after just one flight. Everything just packs way too tight. If Estes replaces this kit I will build it with a streamer to reduce the amount of stuff to pack into the body tube.

    B.A. (March 8, 2006)

    Once you get the knack of how to lead the blades and a chute, this is a great rocket. All of the kids love it, and I've had the nosecone take over 2 minutes to come down at times.

    M.S. (October 23, 2006)

    After a couple of failures using the rotors, we have scrapped the helicopter retrieval completely and added a streamer to all 3 Cosmic Cobras that my kids own. Much easier to load and higher percentage of recovery. We have flown one of the Cobras at least 15 times. They all look like they will last a long time. With less weight, a C motor makes a really nice flight!

    J.G. (June 15, 2008)

    This rocket is what I refer to as a "Titanic". Very first flight was also its last flight. I read the flight logs and reviews prior to flying this, and for some reason, thought mine was going to work. It didn't. There is just too much stuff to cram into a BT-56 tube here. Others that witnessed the ballistic arc that our rocket did (when ejection charge failed to even get the nosecone out) said "that must have been a Cosmic Cobra". Tells you something. The suggestions we got were that this rocket needs to be "stretched". We concur. A longer body tube will allow for chute to be packed underneath the folded helicopter blades. Stay tuned in the mods section.

    G.P. (June 25, 2008)

    I'm not sure why some people are having trouble with this rocket - I've had good recovery every time. The trick is to fold and roll the parachute in a long wedge so that it fits inside the rotors. This was my mom's favorite of all my rockets - she loved watching the rotor/nose cone deploy and autogyro down.

    C.G. (July 2, 2008)

    As G.P. said, you need to fold the parachute rather flat and place it between the rotors. My daughter has one and has never had a bad deployment. However, the nose cone doesn't spin all that well in the default build; it starts to spin, then flips over, then starts to spin again, and so on. I resolved this by putting a few grams (probably around 15) of weight in the tip of the nosecone, enticing it to remain pointed downward for a more satisfying spin.

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