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Adding a Motor Retention System
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By Kyle Yawn
I just recently purchased a LOC Precision Graduator kit as I move on into mid
power and then on to high power rocketry. I found this kit to be a good choice to fill that need. It didnt come
with the easy to follow detailed instructions that Id been used to like those of Estes and Aerotech though. I
began looking over them and found that the suggested motor retention was to use masking tape to friction fit the motors
into the motor mount tube. I knew that this method was not going to hold up to even some of the smallest engines that
this kit can fly on, let alone a G or H. I knew that I was going to have to come up with some other method to do this
with. I have read a lot of material on mid and high power rocket construction and decided on the following plans to add
a good, solid motor retention system to my new LOC Precision Graduator.
- To do this you are going to need the aft centering ring from the Graduator kit,
one or two 8-32 ¼ t-nuts, a pen or pencil, a drill press, a hammer, some epoxy, one or two screws to fit the
T-nuts.
- After gathering all your materials make two marks directly across from each
other on the outsides of the centering ring in the middle of the wood. This should be enough room for the T-nut(s) to
fit without any overlap off of the ring.
- Next use the drill press to drill out the wholes in the ring that the T-nut(s)
will fit into.
- Place the T-nut(s) into the wholes in the ring and using the hammer; gently
hammer the tacks of the T-nut(s) into the wood of the centering ring. This will help them stay in place before you add
the epoxy and it will greatly increase their strength.
- Using a tooth pick or straight pin, mix up a small amount of epoxy. Then use
the tooth pick or pin to apply it around the base of the T-nut where it contacts the centering ring. Be very careful
when doing so that you do not apply any epoxy into the threads of the T-nut or else the screws will not go into
them.
- Once the epoxy sets you can place the screws into the T-nuts.
- After this is done you can experiment with different types of metal clips that
will hold you motor in place using one or two or even three T-nuts. These are a few examples I found:


GUEST's OPINION:
"3/06 - SAFETY ALERT!!! Never attempt to hand hold parts when using a drill press (as shown in the accompaning
photo). Always use a drill vise or clamp the part to the base. Be sure to use safety goggles as well."
(B.C.)
GUEST's OPINION:
"3/06 - For a more secure mounting, put the flange portion of the T-Nut on the inner surface of the centering
ring. With that configuration, the epoxy and tangs only need to hold the t-nut in place while attaching the retention
clips. The screws and clips serve to pull the t-nut flange tighter against the centering ring. Ejection forces are
countered by the flange against the upper surface of the centering ring, rather than relying on the tangs and epoxy to
withstand the forces of repeated liftoff, ejection, and (not always soft) landing." (S.E.T.)
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