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FlisKits - Decaffeinator (SP011)

Manufacturer:FlisKits
Diameter:3.75 inches
Skill Level:2
Style:Odd-Roc
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Contributed by John Lee

FlisKits Decaffeinator

Brief:
I opened this package to try and build it quite some time ago but stopped when reading the instructions. Most of the construction is done with a hot glue gun and I didn't have one. When my brother in law asked about it sitting on my desk, I told him I didn't have such a tool. A few weeks later, one magically appeared. Thanks Toby!

This kit is made from Styrofoam coffee cups, foamboard, and a few more conventional pieces in the area of the motor mount. It is definitely different and quite tall. I built it in a single sitting.

Construction:
Construction began with the motor mount. It uses a very long BT-50 tube as opposed to the short tubes that are just over standard motor length. A quarter inch was marked off on a spent motor casing, some white glue was swabbed around the interior and the spent casing was used to push the thrust ring into place.

A razor knife was used to make a slit for the engine hook and the hook was put into place. It was secured with several wraps of electrical tape.

The kits came with 2 fiber centering rings to mount the BT-50 motor tube into the BT-70 airframe. Each needed to have a notch put into its inner hole. The instructions recommended using a hole punch and that worked great.

Each of the rings was slipped over one end of the motor tube and glued in place with white glue. The notch on the bottom ring was to align with the motor hook. That on the upper is to pass the recovery harness. A fillet of white glue was placed around both sides of each ring.

The kit has both elastic and Kevlar®. Usually, the Kevlar® gets attached to the motor mount but that is not the case here. An loop was tied into one end of the elastic and then an overhand knot was tied in about 10 inches down the line. The long, untied, end of the elastic was then passed through the notch in the upper ring and the elastic was pulled through until the overhand knot acted as a stopper at the ring. Some glue was then used to fasten the harness into place.

The tube that receives the motor mount is a longish piece of BT-70 that has to have one end trimmed by a few inches. I marked the cutting line and then inserted a mandrel to support the tube. The tube was cut with a razor blade since my hobby knife was missing at the time.

The forward end of the BT-70 is to be blocked by a balsa coupler. The Kevlar® is supposed to originate in the tube, pass along one side and over the top of the coupler, and then back into the tube to emerge at the other end. I should have checked for fit first but did not. I smeared white glue around the end of the tube and inserted the balsa and Kevlar®. The balsa was a tight fit and I could not get it all the way seated flush with the end of the tube before the glue grabbed.

Next up was work on the cups. Three of the cups are singled out for special attention. They need to have the bases of the cups cut out to accommodate the passing of the BT-70. This too was done with a razor blade. By cutting just at the mold line, a very tight, almost too tight, fit is achieved. I had to open the holes a bit with some sanding.

Now came something really new for me. I had never used a hot glue gun before and two of the cups which had their bottoms cut out were to be joined mouth to mouth with a got glue gun.

I plugged it in and let it heat up for a while. I gave some test squirts to see how it fed over a piece of scrap cardboard and I burned myself several times. Did you know that globs of glue at 400 degrees look almost identical to ones at room temperature?

Ready to take the plunge, I placed two of the cups together and began to pump out a bead of glue around the circumference. The feed was not steady and some parted got more than others. I burned myself some more. I worried about melting the foam. I eventually got them together and, surprising me, they seemed solid enough.

I gave the glue a few minutes to harden up and then fit the BT-70 into the joined cups. I pushed it down so that the cups were at the end opposite to the plug and allowed the body tube to protrude from the cups for just a little bit. The glued gun was then used to glue the lower cup into place.

Included in the kit is a template for marking the fin locations. I was cut out and taped into place on the bottommost cup. The lines for each face and each side of the three fins was then transferred to the cup. The template was removed and a steel straightedge was used to extend the lines.

The kit also came with a template to cut the fins from the foamboard. At this point, a decision had to be made. The fins could be mounted on the cup or they could be mounted directly to the BT-70 hiding inside the cup. The latter, naturally, yields a stronger connection and that is what I chose to do. That being the case, I laid the full template out on the foamboard, transferred the outline, and cut the fins out with a steel ruler guiding a razor blade. Had I elected to do a surface mount, the same template would have been used but a shaded area would have been removed from the template first.

A razor blade was used to cut slots for the fins in the bottom cup, following the lines transfered from the marking template. The template was sized so that it fit around the cut right up to the lip but did not extend onto the lip. I learned at this step that the lines should have been extended all the way to the edge of the cup. This was simple to do.

The fins themselves were mounted by the simple expedient of running a bead of hot glue along the root edge and pressing them into place through the slot cut for the purpose. When in place, a fillet of hot glue was run along the seam between the cup and the fin on each side. It was all much easier than I had supposed.

You will recall that there were three cups which had their bottoms cut out. Two had been used thus far and it was time for the third one. It was mated with an unmodified cup in the same way that the first two were. The cut end was then slid over the projecting section of BT-70 so that its base was flush against that of the upper cup of the first pair. Hot glue was then used to join the two sections together.

From there on, it was just a matter of hot gluing pairs of cups together and then gluing the butt end of a pair to the butt of the preceding pair. It was easy.

The last construction step was the installation of the launch lug, a long, heavily built 3/16" job. It was just hot glued into place at the seams of the two lowest pairs and with that, construction was complete.

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Finishing:
No finishing is really needed on this rocket. I suppose that I could find some foam safe paint and get rid of the yellow from the glue but its not all that noticeable from any distance. I decided to leave mine bare.

Not long after completing this rocket, I saw a post from Jim Flis on TRF about finishing. He mentioned that electrical tape can be used to provide a little color and the strengthen the joints between cups. That seemed like a good idea to me and would cover up much of the glue mess.

I didn't have any colored tapes but I decided that I would be satisfied with black. Accordingly, I wrapped each cup joint with tape and the appearance was greatly improved.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
I was a bit worried when the time came for the maiden flight. The wind had kicked up a bit. Mostly, I was worried about the rocket being torn away from the lug on the launch rod. That did not occur.

I mounted a 12" chute and a C11-3. It was not a kid magnet because there were no kids present at that time, but it sure magnetized the adults. It took off well, did not weathercock at all, and ejected very nicely. It looked kind of funny coming down. Usually the rocket hangs under the chute canopy. This one kind of let its chute droop down below it. There was no damage. A video of the maiden flight can be seen here.

The second flight was on a D12-3. It was a repeat of the first one except higher. A good time was had by all. A video of the second flight can be seen here.

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2005-05-02Joe Policy's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- Severe weathercocking, the rocket arced over and the parachute barely had time to deploy before it...
    2005-05-07Joe Policy's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-5- Much better then the first flight, got great altitude
    2005-05-07Joe Policy's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- Good flight, a couple cups started to separate. Easily repairable.
    2005-06-19Jake Alexander's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-5- Flew great, but shock cord burned thru, and both parts recovered intact. Main rocket recovered...
    2005-09-28Rod Thrasher's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- Parachute shrouds tangled on fins, but no more damage.
    2005-09-28Rod Thrasher's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- Good flight. A couple cups broke off, but can be glued.
    2006-04-22Darwin May's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- Seperated, the MMT came down under chute and the rest of the rocket had a slow backwards glide all...
    2006-04-22Darwin May's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- First flight-High and fast! I was expecting it to lumber to maybe 50 feet, but whoa!
    2006-07-08Bill Ralston's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- nice perfect flight and recovery with no damage.
    2006-07-08Bill Ralston's FlisKits DecaffeinatorF24-7- to much power for this rocket. At 100-150 ft it bent and broke and then stripped the fins off it...
    2006-08-12Bill Ralston's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-4-
    2006-08-13Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- What a fun flight! Glue joint fail at ejection. No Damage to freefalling cups.
    2006-09-09Mikey Antonakakis's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6- Perfect Flight. Perfectly Straight, ejection charge came after apogee but parachute deployed...
    2006-09-09Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- Excellent flight, a parasitic foam Shuttle, released at ejection, swooped and waggled all the way...
    2006-09-10Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6- First flight on this motor. At build time I lengthened the motor mount just for this load....
    2006-10-08Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- Foam Shuttle Glider released at ejection. Oops. Snapped kevlar/elastic junction. Motor mount came...
    2007-01-13Ray King's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- Flight was very good - It was -1F and on landing one of the glue joints between the cups broke -...
    2007-06-23Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-4- Drag Raced Jim Flis with his DeCaff on a D12. Both had parasitic gliders.
    2007-07-22Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6-
    2007-07-28Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6- Shuttle Glider failed to separate. Recovered all together.
    2007-08-19Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6-
    2007-10-13Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-6- Arced into ground (too windy...) Will fix with new cups...
    2007-12-30Chan Stevens's FlisKits DecaffeinatorD12-3- Flew with boost glider too, decent glide.
    2008-06-22Scott Turnbull's FlisKits DecaffeinatorE9-4- 2nd Annual Drag Race with Jim Flis. Snapped kevlar as shuttle glider deployed. All parts...
    2008-08-06Ray King's FlisKits DecaffeinatorC11-3- Cub Scout Launch - Needed more power - parachute never fully deployed - hard landing - ended up in...

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