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Sun Jan 4 21:43:41 2009
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| SPECS: | 52" x 2.6" - 20 oz |
| ROCKSIM FILE: | MISSING - please submit here |
| SpaceCAD FILE: | MISSING - please submit here |
| REC'D MOTORS: | F40W-4(R), F50T-6, G40W-7, G33J-5(R), G64W-10(R), G80T-10
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(by Nick Hills) Brief
I have always liked scale kits, so I decided to try the Nike Apache kit from
Cosmodrome Rocketry. I made a great choice. As the kit is real nice, and high
quality parts used through out.
Construction
Upon opening of package, every thing was there all in one piece. The balsa
transition and nose cone are awesome. They are done real well! You do want to
fill any minor dents in them and then seal them with sanding sealer to make
them look better though.
The instructions are ok, the kit is not made for the beginner in mid-power
rocketry. But after you have built a few other mid-power rockets, this is a
easy kit to build.
The launch lug was made out of 1/4" cardboard tubing. They are on
stand-offs so the launch rod will clear the transition.
The fins and centering rings are made from 1/8" plywood . The fins are
TTW and they go all the way to the motor mount. The Apache's fins are though
the wall too! It was fairly easy to get all the fins lined up. The kit comes
with a template to wrap around the body tubes, then you just mark it, go to a
door frame and extend the lines down the tubes.
Assembly was pretty easy. The hard part is doing internal fillets. The
instructions said to do the internal fillets. This eliminates the need to have
fillets on the outside of the rocket. This also preserves the scale look of the
model. The best way to do the internal fillets is have the rocket standing up
right, then, mix up a batch of 30 minute epoxy. Now get a stick and put some
epoxy on the internal fin/body tube joint and the motor mount/ fin joint and
let it run down the joints to form a fillet. As this method works great. And
don't be concerned if it does not look good as no one will see it since it will
not be noticeable once you put the aft centering ring on.
You may want to put VERY small external fillets on the rocket to seal the
minor gap from the fin slots. Also since this is a scale rocket you will want
to fill the spirals on the tubes. Elmers Carpenter's Wood Filler works well for
this. Just make sure to sand it smooth after it is dry.
Probably the hardest part on assembly is putting on the
antennas. You have to drill holes through the tube, but the trick is to get
them at a even level. Mine turned out OK. Also make sure to use plenty of epoxy
when you put the Apache on at the transition. And when you put the nose weight
into the Apache's nose cone. Overall this is a very sturdy kit when finished!
Finishing
Once all painted it looks really nice. The hard part is the decals. They do not
have very good instructions for doing this part. In the kit panel they have the
decals centered between 1 fin, while in the instructions they say to put them
between 2 sets of fins. So I just centered it between a fin. But I do have to
say the decals are very high quality.
Construction Rating:
4
½ out of 5
Flight
For the first flight of my Nike-Apache I chose a Aerotech F40-4 White Lightning
reload. The boost was beautiful (even with the wind)! Could not have been
better!
They do not give you anything for motor retention. So you can either
friction fit the motor or you can add t-nuts and clips, like I did, so the
motor will stay in place!
Recovery
The 4 second delay is just right for the rocket. The 28" chute brought it
down just right, but on landing the tip of the Apache's nose cone broke off.
That should be a easy fix.
The parachute is made of rip-stop nylon. The 'chute was nicely made and it
was purple so it was really easy to see up in the sky! The shock cord is
attached with a steel cable that is connected to the centering ring. This is my
favorite way to attach shock cords to rockets and is by far the strongest. By
the way, the shock cord is 1" flat elastic, it is about 10 feet long,
which is perfect for the rocket.
Flight Rating:
4
½ out of 5
Summary
The rocket is a great scale kit! But I would not recommend this for a first
mid-power rocket since this is not the "average everyday" rocket!
Overall this is a very cool kit and there are not to many problems with it!
Overall Rating:
4
½ out of 5
All Cosmodrome kits now come with a motor retainer.
The Nike Apache instructions have been updated to simplify and clarify
construction. - Mike Kruger (Cosmodrome Rocketry)
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The following excerpt is from
"Sport Rocketry". The intention is to allow guests to get a basic
feeling about a kit. We strongly suggest that you get a copy of the referenced
Sport Rocketry and read the entire article. Inside you will find many helpful
hints in construction as well as other useful information. For more
information, use the two links above.
(Sport Rocketry - May/June 2000 - page 41 - by Mark Sinicki)
"The
Cosmodrome 1:6-scale Nike-Apache is one beefy kit . . ."
"Thick-wall tubing, plywood fins and bulkheads, and a stainless steel
shock cord anchor cable . . ."
"Expect to spend a lot of time on step 4 . . . fins get sanded to a
diamond cross-section."
"The nose cone is a long, narrow balsa affair with space in the bottom for
a large lead nose weight."
"Through-the-wall fin attachment . . ."
"Fin placement templates are provided for both stages."
"Plastruct-type wires are provided to simulate antennas on the upper
stage."
"Applying the self-adhesive decals was no trouble at all."
"The kit was supplied with a 28" purple parachute."
"I found the quick link provided in the kit to be very helpful . . ."
"The model made its maiden flight . . . on an AeroTech F50-6FWL . .
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"The bird landed on soft, sandy ground, but the leading 1-1/2" of the
balsa nose cone was still splintered upon impact."
The entire article
gives the impression that this is a nice kit to experience more detailed and
challenging building.
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GUEST's OPINION:
11/00 -
"This is my second kit, the first one drifted away and we could not find it. I certified Level 1 this weekend with this kit on a H-238. It screamed off the pad and whistled on the way up, 1500-2000 feet. The only upgrades I gave the kit were 3-4 coats of glass resin to the nose cone and transition, this was to strengthen the balsa. I also used a longer motor mount tube, 2 more centering rings, and glassed it, because I will be using I200's in this kit. I also own a Black Brandt from Cosmodrome, great kits." (C.S.)
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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
12/03 -
"I love the Cosmodrome balsa cones, but they get broken and dinged so easily that I recommend a covering with fiberglass/epoxy to seal them from damage. I just finished a Nike-Smoke this way. Since the Apache has a conical nose, it will work as well. I measured the nosecone's dimensions and used VCP (freeware by Gary Crowell) to print out a nose cone shroud template. I kept playing with the dimensions in VCP until I got the shroud perfect--a printed shroud just covered the conical section of my cone. I laid the template on the fiberglass (used 2 oz tight-weave e-glass, from a hobby shop) and cut it to match the template. After that, brush on some slow-set epoxy, lay on the glass, then brush on top to wet the glass. Let it set, then use Fill-N-Finish or Kilz spray primer to fill the imperfections left in the weave. You can't tell it was glassed, but it is much harder than a balsa cone. Really not that much effort--the most difficult part was getting the shroud template right." (M.E.N.
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| Date |
Name |
Motor |
Ejection/ Altitude |
Wind |
Notes |
| 04-13-2003 |
Joe Cacciatore |
AT RMS G64-7 |
Apogee - Perfect |
Gusty |
- Great first flight, perfect delay. However when it landed the tip of the nosecone broke off. |
| 11-02-2003 |
Joe Cacciatore |
AT RMS F40-4 |
Apogee - NC Down |
Calm |
- Good flight on an F40, lands close to pads |
| 04-17-2004 |
Joe Cacciatore |
AT RMS F40-4 |
Very Early |
5-10 mph winds |
- Chute ejected as rocket cleared the rod, rocket caught on fire, RMS casing ruined, not sure what happen but bottom section of rocket destroyed. Status: Not Repairable |
| 01-11-2004 |
Al Gloer |
AT SU F50-7 |
Didn't Record |
0-5 mph winds |
Al - Beautiful flight - Only problem was 1/2 inch of nose cone destroyed on landing. Needle sharp cone needs reinforcing. I am getting a new one out of basswood. |
| 05-14-2001 |
Todd Moore |
AT RMS G33 |
Apogee - Perfect |
Calm |
- First Flight. Picture perfect. Good motor for this bird. |
| 07-07-2001 |
Todd Moore |
AT RMS G33 |
Didn't See |
0-5 mph winds |
- Boost was cool, as usual. Heard ejection, but didn't see due to sun. Nice flight, recoverd close to pad. |
| 09-28-2001 |
Todd Moore |
AT RMS F52-5 |
Just Before |
5-10 mph winds |
- Fast flight.... |
| 07-10-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT EconoJet G35-4 |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
5-10 mph winds |
- Perfect boost, could use more power, extra long shock cord protects those beautiful balsa pieces. |
| 11-04-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT EconoJet G38-4 |
Apogee - NC Down |
5-10 mph winds |
- Great slow liftoff, another wonderful flight. Long walk for this one. |
| 11-04-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS G64-7 |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
5-10 mph winds |
- Notes Perfect boost, screams off the pad, crackling white smoke and fire. Perfect deployment, easy to find, apache nose always stuck in the gound sticking up into the air. High power launch at Bomber field. |
| 11-04-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H238-M |
Just Past (1-2sec) (2000 ft) |
0-5 mph winds |
- This kit screamed off the pad for my level 1 flight. It jumped as soon as you heard the ignitor pop. It went up into the clouds, around 2000 feet. It drifted a long ways, and after being eaten by mosquitoes, trudging through high water in my waders, it wa Cert Flight: L1 |
| 11-05-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT SU G40-4 |
Just Before |
Gusty |
- Great flight, too windy today, recovery around 200 feet away. |
| 12-09-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS I200-M |
Apogee - NC Down |
5-10 mph winds |
- Well, I built it for it and it took it in stride. The I200 blasted this kit way up there, great for breaking in a new high power site. LOOOONG walk, perfect flight striaght up, into the wind a little bit. |
| 12-30-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H180-M |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
Calm |
- 2 problems, launch lug stand off broke off, and ended up in near by pond. Will dry out, take the I200, and then move onto Kosdon's |
| 12-30-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H220-M |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
Calm |
- Great boost and quick out of sight flight. This disappaered into the clear blue sky, great deployment and short walk for recovery. Handles this motor and then some. |
| 12-30-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H238-M |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
Calm |
- Another great flight, this kit takes blue thunder H's standing still. Perfect straight boost, short walk for recovery. |
| 03-10-2001 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H128-M |
Apogee - NC Down |
0-5 mph winds |
- Another beautiful flight. If it was not as windy, I would put an I200 in it! |
| 04-20-2002 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS I200-L |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
10+ mph winds |
- WOW, blew off the pad, worked just like I planned, took the motor in stride. 40 G's? Not a problem. |
| 04-20-2002 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H180-L |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
5-10 mph winds |
- Great high flight, long walk for recovery. Need to add alt bay to it. |
| 04-20-2002 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS H238-M |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
5-10 mph winds |
- Great boost, nice straight flight in the winds. Short walk. |
| 04-22-2002 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS G64-7 |
Apogee - NC Down |
5-10 mph winds |
- Great flight off the pad, nice boost in the wind. |
| 04-22-2002 |
Casey Smith |
AT RMS I200-L |
Just Past (1-2sec) |
0-5 mph winds |
- Screamed off the pad, went almost out of sight. Long walk around 2 miles for recovery in the winds. Took it again with no problem. |
| 07-10-2000 |
Casey Smith |
AT SU G80-7 |
Apogee - NC Down |
5-10 mph winds |
- better boost, no weathercocking at all. Drifted aways and was lost while launching at NASA. Belive government agents took it. deserves to be a 2-stager Status: Lost |
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