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REV 2.4 - Sun Aug 29 00:03:50 2010

Estes
Mean Machine
P.O. Box 227, 1295 H Street
Penrose, CO 81240
(719) 372-6565
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SPECS: 78.8" x 1.64" - 5.8 oz
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REC'D MOTORS: D12-3, D12-5, E9-4, E9-6

Rating
(Contributed - by Scott Danielson) 

[Rocket Pic]Construction: Rating: 4 out of 5 points

This is a great 1st D engine kit. It's over 6 feet tall. The overall construction was a snap. This kit was pretty simple to build. Just take your time when gluing the coupler and body tubes together. THEY HAVE TO BE ALIGNED PERFECTLY! The couplers were EXTREMELY hard to fit in the body tubes, and because of this my tubes are kind of bent. If you take your time on the fins, the flight will be perfect. I've had 3 nice landings with no damage. I used white glue and they're fine. The decals are pretty boring. The rocket is supposed to be painted plain black, but the sun can warp the tubes because of the black. So paint it something lighter. 

FLIGHT: Rating: 5 out of 5 points

GREAT flyer if you take your time. I recommend a D12-5, but a D12-3 is pretty good too. The huge thing went straight up about 800-850 feet. 24" parachute works great. If the shroud lines don't get tangled, you get a nice soft landing. Medium lift-off, but slow recovery. No damage whatsoever. This is a real crowd pleaser if the crowd hasn't seen a lot of rockets. Most people who are new to rocketry will think you're gonna put it in orbit because of its height. 

OVERALL: Rating: 4 out of 5 points
Good price, with many flights ahead of you. Just don't rush it. I'm thinking about doing a 2 stager on this guy. That'll be fun! Buy this rocket! 



Rating
(Contributed - by John Gordon)

Brief:
This is a tallllll single stage, 24mm rocket with a 24 inch parachute.

Construction:
There are four (4) body tubes, a standard 24mm motor mount, four (4) balsa fins and a plastic nose-cone. I deviated from the standard paper shock cord mount.

I bought this kit and let it sit in a closet for about 4 years. Went to my first HPR launch and got the bug again. The instructions were simple, but I deviated a bit from the sequence by skipping ahead while waiting for other parts to dry/set. The illustrations were easy to follow. I used the standard 24 inch Estes plastic parachute. Instead of attaching the shock cord to the body tube via the paper mount, I cut two small slits about an inch below the top edge of the body tube, parallel to the top edge, about a half inch apart. This required a bit of work with needle nose pliers and hemostats to work inside the small body tube, but the end result was worth five minutes of wrestling with it. The kit was missing one of the tube couplers, so I made one from the cardboard backing of a blister pack. I curled it into a tube, put some adhesive on it, put it in the tube and let it expand. It worked great. For the entire kit, I used LocTite Gel CA. It has all the strength of CA, but it is a thick consistency and doesn't run at all. The fit of all the parts was good.

Finishing:
I can't stand trying to find a black rocket at some launch sites, so I painted mine international orange (BRIGHT orange) with a chrome nose fading back into the orange. Dubbed it "Burning Chrome" after one of my favorite William Gibson novels.

Finishing Pro's: Straightforward. Con's: Long body tube a bit tricky, would have been much better with just two pieces instead of four. Separation should have been in center instead of at nose cone due to difficulty working with a rocket 78 inches long. Hard to safely move and transport.

Construction Rating: 3 ½ out of 5

Flight:
I lucked out and bought one each of (Estes) D12-3, D12-5, D12-7 and an (Aerotech) E15 from another flier at the field. It was nice being able to compare all these engines the first time I went out to fly this model. D12-3 was too short of delay, ejection just after thrust. D12-5 was better, but rocket was still ascending. D12-7 was perfect, rocket just nosed over when ejection blew. E15 was a great kick in the pants for this model, but the long body tube was slightly bent by the thrust. (This also happened to another person with an identical model that day) Bend isn't pronounced, but I will want to try and straighten a bit before I launch it again. Eyeball estimates of altitude was somewhere between 1500 and 2000 feet, though this method is unreliable. Our club uses a kind of paper/cellulose insulation for wadding, it worked great. No problems with motor hook, until I got home, then it fell out! Will have to try and de-mount motor mount to re-glue it.

Recovery:
Recovery Pro's: 4 Launches, 4 Recoveries. Con's: I'd never use a D12-3. Cut the circle out of the center of parachute, or this model will drift way too far. I had zero damage with it removed, and for all the D launches it was a short walk to recover. The E put it so high I had about a 1/2 mile to walk.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
It's a good kit, but could be great if you make your separation point in the center (easily done with a few parts).

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5


(by Jordan Hiller)

[Rocket Pic]The most attractive thing about the Estes Mean Machine is its size. While it's only a BT-55 body tube, the rocket is about 6 ½ feet long!

Building is quite simple, since this is just a very long 3FNC model. The instructions are straightforward, and the only tools you really need are the ones you need for every other rocket (sandpaper, hobby knife, glue, etc.)

Many people build their Mean Machine so that it separates in the middle of the body tube(s) instead of at the nose cone. This is a good idea, and makes it much easier to store and transport. And because of the length: width ratio of this rocket, be careful if you paint it black and leave it out in the sun - it can sag easily!

On a D12 motor, the Mean Machine flies pretty low (definitely in sight), so you might consider trying some E motors. It's actually not too bad on D12s, but because of its size it looks quite low. It is quite over-stable despite the small fins, and is very susceptible to weather cocking and oscillating.

The first flight of mine went off the launch rod a little funny, and it was oscillating so bad there was as much as a foot or two of movement back and forth at the nose.

Overall, the Mean Machine is a fairly simple build and very fun to fly. There are some minor strength problems since it is so long, but I'd still give it a 4 point rating.


Rating
(Contributed - by David Austerberry - 11/23/04)

Brief:
This is a classic Estes kit that has been in production for quite some time. It is a single staged rocket with a large length to width ratio and the launches are impressive for a low power kit.

Construction:
The long airframe is built by coupling four standard BT-60 body tubes. The kit comes with four die-cut balsa fins and two cardboard centering rings. Recovery is done with a 3/16" shock cord nearly 3 feet in length. A parabolic plastic nose cone is also provided.

This kit comes nicely packaged with cardboard reinforcement in the bag to protect the five BT-60 body tubes. All the parts listed in the instructions were there and undamaged. The instructions were clear and easy to follow, typical of most Estes kits. This kit can be easily built with no special tools but I had recently bought the tube marking tool kit from Estes, so I didn't need to use the included body tube wrapper. The "hold down strap" (just a strip of paper) template was useful in gluing down the engine hook but not really needed. The kit was extremely easy to build--it could almost be a level 1 kit. With a bit of sanding, all the parts fit together well. In hindsight I should have used custom tube couplers instead of the ones provided as the stock ones are much too short. I guess that Estes wanted to put a priority on keeping weight down over durability. The centering rings also look a little flimsy.

The plastic tools I bought helped with gluing the fins on perfectly but of course homemade marking guides and fin gluing jigs work just as well. This rocket is already very heavy, so no priming coats or sealing was put on the body tubes, just a thin coat of black paint. Painting it black was a very bad idea. Paint it another color instead. Once I flew it in 90 degree weather and it got too hot to handle. It warped a bit, too. Once finished, it looked pretty lean and, well, mean.

PROs:

  • Easy construction. It could even be a skill level 1 kit.
  • Looks good even with the simple decals provided.

CONs:

  • Tube couplers could stand being at least an inch or two longer.

Finishing:
The instructions warned against priming the rocket but advised putting sanding sealer on the fins, sanding after the sealer had dried, and then putting on one thin coat of spray paint. I took Estes' advice because this rocket is very heavy for its D motor. Modifying it with a 29 mm motor mount would be great and I know people have done so with good results.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
The recommended motor was a D12-5. It's the only one to consider using as ejection is consistently just after apogee but a D12-3 would be much too short of a delay. You can't put too much wadding in this rocket. I loaded it with 8 squares of wadding. The engine mount and motor hook worked just fine.

My first flight was on a day with calm winds and it went perfectly straight up. I was a little worried when the rocket nosed down and started falling. Then the chute deployed and it came down slowly, only about a hundred feet away. My second flight would sorely test the short recovery range. The launch site was near a baseball field with a game in progress! It lifted off beautifully, arched over at apogee, and landed not 15 feet from the home run fence. Whew! Both times the rocket came home unscathed.

PROs:

  • Lift offs look awesome, especially for a low power kit.

CONs:

  • The rocket could have been designed for ejection a bit closer to apogee.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
This is really a good rocket. If you're looking for a good addition to your low power fleet, this should be a top choice. Lift offs look good, construction is easy, and it looks pretty good. The main improvement I would make is using longer tube couplers. The rocket would be more durable and the extra weight might help better coordinate apogee with ejection.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

[Submit your Opinion]

GUEST's OPINION:
03/10 - "I love this rocket. It's an incredibly easy build and impossible to lose--it's just to darn big to lose site of. Take off is impressive as it's slow off the pad due to its weight. My only issue is I bust a fin on nearly every flight. The fins are so small and all of the rockets weight comes down on them if you build it the standard way (e.g., parachute release at the nose cone). The good news is repair is easy and I see this bird lasting a LONG time. I will eventually build another and build it to separate in the middle and come down in two sections on two chutes. Also, be warned, this sucker takes a lot of paint. I used two full size cans of spray paint to get the effect I wanted. Overall though, it's a great kit and one I'll keep in my fleet for a long time." (G.W.R.)

GUEST's OPINION:
03/10 - "I love this rocket! The main advantage to its length is that if it crashes or lawn darts, you have plenty of body tube left! Mine has crashed 4 times and is now about 3 feet long. It started out as being called the "Mean Machine" (Well, of course) and after 1 crash was called the "Not-So-Mean Machine". After another it was dubbed "Mini Mean", and now finally it is the "Micro Mean". And it has only broke a fin once! I was just putting this story out there. Without all of the body tube, there is less drag and on an Aerotech E18W, it'll go to 1,800 feet! This is one of my most treasured rockets." (D.B.)

GUEST's OPINION:
02/08 - "I bought and painted this one all white, except for a red nose cone and blue fin section. This rocket really draws attention. People love to watch er go up. The D 12 really has some authority and brings it to a respectable altitude. Mine is the new model so it is flown with the adapter. I will try the E next time. I was really surprised at how striaght this rocket flew. cliche - it really flew like an arrow up to about 500-600 feet. People really like to watch big rockets fly. The middle disconnect is an excellent way to transport this rocket. Very mean and lean." (a.j.i.)

GUEST's OPINION:
06/07 - "I built this rocket in about 1990 or 1991. Living in a small apartment and driving a small car I realized that I would have to split the model in half. I used a razor saw to remove the bottom half of the nose cone shoulder. I then glued the nose cone permanently on the top of the rocket and the bottom half of the shoulder on the bottom of the top half of the rocket. I then glued the fins that came with the rocket on this top half and fabricated bigger fins with the same shape and attached them to the bottom half. I used the 24 in chute that came with the rocket for the bottom half and bought an 18 in chute for the top half. I painted it black (big mistake) but it flew great and recovery of the rocket in two separate pieces was cool and unusual. I was in the local hobby lobby the other day and noticed the updated kit to fly on E engines and the airframe screws together in the middle." (K.L.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/05 - "I have a challenge. Take two of these rockets and assemble them to make one long rocket. Approximately 13 feet tall. Also, to power this bad boy, use three Estes "E" engines. Please make sure they are removable after flight. This challenge is possible, for I had a successful launch approximately three months ago. Recommend using an Aerotech Mantis Launchpad at the minimum and a 5 foot long rod." (M.R.)

GUEST's OPINION:
02/05 - "I built this rocket when I was in ninth grade (2001-2002) and this was the second rocket that I had assembled. I followed the instructions and I had finished construction in about one day. Easy to build and a great way to get into large rockets. This has always been a crowd favorite at our school rocket launches." (M.R.)

GUEST's OPINION:
10/03 - "I built the Mean Machine in 5th Grade (1983) and it stole the show on its first launch way back then. Perfect launch, perfect recovery! Everyone was impressed, after all the other kids launched their smaller rockets. I launched it a couple of times after that, but it hung near the ceiling in my parent's living room for the better part of 15 years. Last year at Thanksgiving, we decided to start up a family tradition - a launch session where everyone brings a new rocket. The Mean Machine was back in action! More perfect launches, and every launch was caught with ease. I can't say enough about this bad boy. If you don't have one, get one! It's worth every penny. In two weeks, it will again be set off for more perfection! Pics are at: http://www.mdwheelers.com/photos/family2/rockets/rocketsmain.htm" (TEW)

GUEST's OPINION:
06/03 - "Ahhhh, the Mean Monkey. Mine pulled a Challenger. Approximately 1.63 seconds in to the launch, the engine mount caved in to the insistent power of the D12 and slid 6 inches up into the body tube. Spectacular flameout - smoldering fins flying in four directions. About 50 feet from the pad, the nose smacked into the ground in the same instant that the ejection fired, sending the flaming carcass bouncing back into the air 2 or 3 feet. The days you wish you had a video camera..." (J.F.)

GUEST's OPINION:
03/03 - "I recently purchased this kit for the first time in my ten + years in rocketry. I must say that I think this kit needs to be revamped. By that I mean they should rework the motor mount to handle E , F & G's, Which this kit could handle with a little beefing up. The couplers are way too short should be at least 3" long each." (J.D.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
07/02 - "Rocket is a BT-60, not 55. The 24" 'chute is actually not the best for this rocket, leading to very hard impact on the engine hook. Flown 2-3 times, our Mean Machine swallowed 1/4" of its motor mount. To correct this, I taped (no glue) four small dowels to the back of the rocket, extending slightly past the hook. All in all, this is a great kit for the D's and also for the audience. We actually forgot the recovery wadding once (kit built stock), and had nearly no scorching on the 'chute." (R.V.)

GUEST's OPINION:
06/01 - "This is a great rocket! I have flown mine a total of 7 times over two days on D12-5 motors. I painted mine red-white-red. Before I read the review, I decided to have mine separate in the middle. I built a 6" coupler/bulkhead out of a 38mm motor mount tube that I peeled two wraps off of to get it to fit. I also mounted a short length of Kevlar string to this coupler which is on the forward section of the airframe. To the aft section I mounted a bulkhead with a hole for the ejection charge and another short piece of Kevlar string. Both Kevlar string shock cord mounts are bolted to the bulkheads with small machine bolts and epoxied. I use a 9ft length of Kevlar string for a shock cord that connects to both sections with fishing leaders. The chute connects high on the shock cord about a foot or so from the upper airframe section. The other comments are right on, kids love this rocket! I launched it on Space Day (May 3) and the 100 or so there went wild! The review was very accurate and I agree with all the comments." (I.S.)

GUEST's OPINION:
05/01 - "I followed the tips on having the rocket separate in the middle because lugging around a 6 ft. rocket can be a pain. Unfortunately the coupling wasn't long enough to keep the two halves from being wobbly. I glued on an additional coupler and now the two halves fit snugly and don't wobble. I also added a snap swivel to one of the halves so that I could carry each piece individually and snap them together when I got to the field. This rocket never fails to impress people!" (R.R.)

GUEST's OPINION:
05/01 - "Great rocket. My first "D" class. Launched D12-5 in a bit of a wind and it arced a little into the wind. Went about 600-700 feet. Then put in an Aerotech E15-7. Very nice, very impressive. Good wind (8-10mph+), went about 1200-1400 feet, with bit of arc. The crowd enjoyed it as I was launching off a the small motor pad (A thru E.)Today, did E15-7, windy. Straight up, beautiful...until...just after apogee... it ejected sending the nose cone and parachute away from tube. Lost site of this as I was watching the tube flutter down ever so slowly, horizontally--and pretty far away---considering no chute/streamer. Looked for the tube for about 40 mins in a farm/field. (Culpeper, VA) No luck. Lovely, lovely machine. Will get another and try and mount Kevlar shock cord to motor mount, etc. Probably put a beeper or Radio DF unit on board. This thing was made for "E!" Good reviews. Great rocket!" (D.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/00 - "We built the Mean Machine exactly per instructions about 3 years ago, and have had at least a dozen no damage flights since. Always a crowd-pleaser. We painted it black, so you need to leave it in the car or fly it early in the day. Sun-baked warping will cause it to wobble in flight. We have flown it on an E15-4, which sent it up true and straight over 1,000 ft., so it came down in a tree a half-mile away, even though I put a 2" spill-hole in the parachute. Luckily, the club has an extendible tree retrieval, so we got it back with no damage. All in all, a great rocket." (D.K.)

GUEST's OPINION:
03/00 - "When I made mine, I installed a baffle using the first tube coupler (first two tubes were therefore glued together) and then had it split on the 3rd joint, with a payload section above. What I ended up with was wobbly flight; the couplers weren't quite strong enough to hold it straight during flight. I didn't have any problems with it overheating at the launch site that I'm aware of (I think the wobble was due to the joints, not warpage), and I painted mine with a black and blue pearl that's just gorgeous on the rocket. You can't tell it's not black until the sun hits it. As a note, be careful launching this in the wind on a standard Estes launch pad. I flew it once, then when trying for a second, it always blew over before I finished the countdown. I'll fly it again when I have a deployment altimeter, and can do nose-cone ejection instead of using the motor; so I can glue all the sections together and eliminate the wobble. I'd love to see this thing on an E!" (T.K.)

GUEST's OPINION:
07/99 - "Another engine that performs very well on the MM is Estes C5-3. Take-off is nice and slow, yet it gets to a comfortable altitude for the recovery system to work well. The best part is that ejection occurs at apogee, and depending on wind conditions the rocket will do one of two things 1)Fall back on itself, then the charge goes 2)Do a 180 degree turn, then the charge pops the nose cone! Great for demo launch. fyi I'd put a 7' shock cord with standard 24" chute." (P.K.)

GUEST's OPINION:
"When building the new "Mean Machine", if your body couplers are the kind coated with red tissue paper, gently peel the red tissue paper off the coupler before gluing. These newer couplers are too tight, and will cause you to seize (glue-lock) the tubes before the tube is pushed all the way on. You may want to use a bit of extra water in the glue when you connect the couplers." (M.H.)

GUEST's OPINION:
"The Mean Machine suffers from several easy to fix/avoid flaws, all of which are related to the rocket's length. I've seen recommendations (and I'd do them if I ever build another one) for having the body tube separate in the middle for chute deployment. There are three reasons for this: (1) less internal area to pressurize for chute ejection, (2) this makes the Mean Machine easier to transport, and (3) the long, narrow body of the rocket is very susceptible to warping over time, if not stored carefully. Also, the stock paint scheme (all black) causes the rocket to absorb more heat if left in the sun (like at a launch site). This, because of the long body, can also cause warpage. Don't get me wrong- I think it's a great ship. I just feel that there are some options to customize it, and make it better." (K.D.)

GUEST's OPINION:
"I built this and flew it in front of a school group and they went wild! They had me fly it again when I was only planning to do it once. I built it the regular way with the whole body tube as one piece. I have flown it 2 times without any damage and it is a great crowd pleaser. The height can be deceiving because of its shear size. I had to run a good 3/4 mile to recover mine with a D12-5. I wouldn't use any thing bigger unless there is no wind." (B.H.)

[Enter Rocket Specific Tip]

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
04/06 - "I built this rocket, and love it. I have read all of the comments on this site, and agree with the observation of cutting the hole in the parachute, mine once drifted for literaly 1 1/2 miles away on a brezzy day on a d-12-3,my suggestion is this: build the rocket with just 2 of the tube sections, like I did. It flies dead straight, and higher, and faster, as long as you make sure fin alignment is true, as well as the tube alignment, which is much easier than with the 3, don't be afraid to do this, I made absoutly no other adjustments, just eliminated the 3rd, short tube. I painted mine dark blue, with black nose cone & fins, it looks really good, and no warping. " (K.D.S. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
09/03 - "PicAfter so much comment about not painting this rocket black, to avoid warping in the sun, I decided to use this alternate paint scheme. As George M. Cohan said, "You're a grand old flag. You're a high flying flag!!!"

1. After prepping and priming, paint the entire rocket gloss white. Let dry at least 24 hours.
2. Put a piece of wide masking tape (the blue painter's kind) horizontally around the body tube about 1/3 of the way up the rocket from the bottom (about the middle of the second body tube from the bottom of the rocket). Mask off the bottom of the rocket from that point using a plastic garbage bag and masking tape.
3. Using standard wide painter's masking tape (the blue kind) start a spiral from the top of the upper tube. Angle the spiral so it leaves a space one tape width wide all the way down to the horizontal tape . (If you tear off a 6" piece of tape before you start you can use it to help align both the angle and spacing, it takes a bit of trial and error.) Leaving the right amount of spacing you should only need one spiral all the way down.
4. Spray the masked upper section gloss red. Let dry 24 hours.
5. Completely unmask the rocket. Put a piece of masking tape horizontally around the body tube covering the lower end of the stripes where you want the transition to the blue field to start. Mask the rest of the top of the rocket with a garbage bag.
6. Use large self-adhesive foil stars to create the star pattern. Buy the biggest stars you can find, it will take more stars than you thought.
7. Spray the bottom portion sky blue. Let dry 24 hours, then remove the masking tape and stars.
8. Paint the nosecone metalic gold, let dry 24 hours, then cover everything with several coats of clear.

I used the split-in-the-middle technique mentioned by others (worked great). I used an extra long kevlar shock cord so I can attach several cheap cloth American flags along the cord. Makes a great last launch of the day." (S.K. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
06/03 - "Definatly make it separate at the middle, because of those wimpy Estes ejection charges (Aerotech E-15's are just fine). I would also say to lengthen the shock cord (its only 3 feet! on a 7 foot rocket!)" (S.W. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
03/03 - "Be careful when fitting fins. Fillet them well! Also sand the nose cone and use Acrylic spray rather than enamel. I used enamel and had great problems with chipping. Also Id recommend painting the inside edge of open tubes with a little CA which seems to add a bit of strength. " (K.T )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
07/02 - "If you haven't built it yet, here's a tip: Build it in 2 pieces so that it separates in the center. At the last launch someone had a brand new MM that was unflyable due to getting crimped while getting it out of the car. There are just too many problems with a one piece 6' rocket. Build it in two 3' pieces! If necessary, replace the coupler with a longer one from Totally Tubular, or just make one out of a scrap piece of BT60, slit so that it fits inside the body tube." (B.K. from RMR )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
02/02 - "I cut out new fins out of basswood stock when building this rocket. I added a tab to the fins for thru the wall to the motor tube mounting. The motor tube is longer than the stock kit supplied motor tube. I used the two supplied centering rings ahead of the fins. Then cut out a basswood centering ring for the aft ring which also contains a 6/32 screw glued in with the stud facing rearward for RMS motor retention. I recommend using these methods to strengthen the booster to use powerful reloads and preven" (S.G. )

[Enter Flight Log]
Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
11-15-2008 William Beggs Est SU E9-6 Apogee - Perfect Calm Event: Rio Ranch, NM
- Great flight and recovery!
06-09-2001 Donald Besaw Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - First flight. Rocket arched into the wind and did not go as high as it could have. Long walk on recovery.
03-21-2004 Donald Besaw Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Very nice flight, got about 500 feet of altitude. Recovered nicely on an Estes plastic 18 inch chute. No damage.
07-30-2007 Alan Boldt Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Orange Twist - Maiden flight. Orange nose cone, twisting white/orange stripes on body, orange lower section/fins. Perfect launch, ejection. Lower section did bend over a soccer goal as it was being caught, but damage prevented. Still perfectly straight to fly again.
07-30-2007 Alan Boldt Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Orange Twist - 2nd Flight. Excellent flight and took video of complete flight. Launch, Apogee Ejection, chute deployment, recovery. Got to love the Mean Machine! Easily our favorite rocket now.
03-28-2009 Duane Boldt Est SU E9-6 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Desert Heat 2009
Mean Yankee - Love flying this rocket. It's always a crowd pleaser. Slightly shorter delay would be better.
03-28-2009 Duane Boldt Est SU E9-6 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Event: Desert Heat 2009
Mean Yankee -
04-23-2010 Duane Boldt Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: SSA RoboRocketry Launch
- Great drag races at a school club launch. Sonoran Science Academy in Tucson. We drag raced 4 at a time 3 times. All three flights were excellent.
04-23-2010 Duane Boldt Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: SSA RoboRocketry Launch
- The D12-5's worked great on all of our mean machines this day.
04-23-2010 Duane Boldt Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: SSA RoboRocketry Launch
- Another great ejection at apogee. Couldn't get the picture taken, but it was beautiful. 4 mean machines just hanging for a split second at apogee. Looked like a skydiving formation...
03-09-2003 Will Borkowski Est SU D12-7 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Nice flight up considering winds, ejection right at apogee, medium recovery walk.
03-09-2003 Will Borkowski Est SU D12-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Perfect flight up, deployment right at apogee. Short recovery walk.
03-09-2003 Will Borkowski Est SU D12-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Perfect flight up, ejection right at apogee, short recovery walk.
08-12-2000 Tim Burger Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Drifted a long way.
10-27-1998 Patrick Chase Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect Calm the tall skinny one - the above date was about the last time i launched it i just painted it about a month ago ... when i did launch it it looked like a toothpick from the ground . perfect launch on it only 2 flights
06-05-2004 Clive Davis Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: ASTRE Launch, June 2004
- First time to launch a Mean Machine. I was surprised how stable the ascent was and the altitude it achieved. I love this rocket. Nice flight.
06-21-2009 Tim Dicke AT RMS F22-5 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds Event: Southern Thunder '09
- Good boost. Bent the body tube on landing near the fins. Will try to repair.
03-05-2005 Barry+A Dobyns AT EconoJet F21-4 Very Early
(1100 ft)
Gusty Event: LUNAR March 2005 Snow Ranch
Ugly Stick - This was flight #8 for my beat up old Mean Machine. At this point we had G10 fiberglass TTW fins, an E/F length motor mount, a nomex parachute pad, and an altimeter bay. Flew perfectly, no damage. Should have flown it on the 6 sec delay.
06-26-1999 David Fergus Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds RIP - Excellent flight to a very high altitude. (launched from Mark Thell's tower); Unfortunately, I waited till I left the launch site to pick it up as it had drifted about 1/4 mile away but next to the road. I threw it in car, but didn't remove engine right away. Engine swelled due to sitting on wet turf for an hour, and the rocket was destroyed trying to get engine out of mount 2 months later... Status: Not Repairable
09-26-2009 Katie Francis Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Flight PictureEvent: Chester's Party Barn
Hannah Montana - This was Katie's first rocket built by her (age 7) and she chose to paint it in Hannah Montana colors of pink, purple, and yellow stripes. Flew second time with an exploding E from Aerotech but have it repaired and it will fly again.
05-20-2001 John Gordon AT SU E15-7 Didn't See
(2000 ft)
5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - WOW! Rocket went OUT OF SIGHT! Est. approx 2000 feet altitude. Some *slight* bending of very long body tube, not bad though.
05-20-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-3 Very Early 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - Fun model to fly, though still costing up when ejection blew. Recovered damage free. Recommend D12-7
05-20-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - Nice flight, ejection a little early due to windy conditions. Long walk! If winds are calm, use D12-5, if windy, D12-7.
05-20-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-7 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - Perfect flight for windy conditions. Landed 30 feet from pad.
06-17-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - Good Flight, flew into the wind and the parachute carried it back past me into the six foot tall corn.
06-17-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - Parachute was a bit balled up, didn't deploy until 20 feet above ground, soft landing. I sure wish Estes still made D12-7!!! :(
06-18-2001 John Gordon Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Burnin' Chrome - This one was demo flight boy cub scout camp we built rockets at, had to aim into wind to avoid losing on small field, was headed right over the scouts and ejected directly over their heads! Spectacular!!!
05-14-2008 Mark Grisco Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - first flight. perfect park flier altitude and recovery.
05-14-2008 Mark Grisco Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - nice flight. cracked fin.
08-20-2008 Mark Grisco Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - straight as a you know what up to about 500 feet.
04-17-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU E9-6 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - first flight on a E-9. perfect.
09-14-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU E9-8 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - best mean machine flight yet!!! straight up, backslid for a second b4 chute
11-14-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU E9-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - kids were watching and yelling!!! awesome!!!!!!!!! cracked fin, easy fixxx!!!
11-17-2007 Robert Hall Est SU D12-9 Very Late 5-10 mph winds Event: Faust
- This was a hoot. First flight, used engine as block for next Aerotech Engine F.
11-17-2007 Robert Hall AT SU F32-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: Faust
- This was an awesom flight as well. I was surprised to see such a long rocket fly so well. I had cut a hole in the top of the chute to keep it from drifing into the next state.
02-2105-20 Scott Hauff Est SU E9-6 None - CATO 5-10 mph winds RIP - Rocket stuck on rod. Flew to 200ft b4 lawn dart. Top 6in of rocket destroyed and Engine mount was on fire and pushed forward about 2in. Gonna be a tough fix!! Status: Lawn Dart
03-03-2001 Paul Hilse AT SU E15-7 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Long Shot - Built by the book with epoxy only on the fins. Shot out of sight, but when it was recovered the plastic clamp standoff was melted to the motor hook.
03-03-2001 Paul Hilse AT SU E15-7 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds Long Shot - Second flight with same motor and without clamp along for a joy ride. Unable to verify ejection. It was too far to see.
03-31-2001 Paul Hilse AT SU E30-7 Didn't See Gusty Long Shot - Wow. No damage. Will try with a small f next.
02-24-2008 Tony Interrante Est SU D12-4 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - 20 degree angle into the wind. Flew straight up on a D. Very impressive flight. One fin broke on landing (concrete) Will repair. Surprised at how straight a long rocket can fly.
02-07-2001 Charlie Kazmir Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up 10+ mph winds - My first mean machine flight on a d engine.It flew sideways about 550 ft,andlanded about 100 yds away. It was an impressive flight,even in the windy conditions
02-01-2002 Pat Kozacik Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - The mean machine is a five flight/ 8 fin veteran. We've flown it 5 times. Except for one flight we have lost fins.
07-17-2007 John Lee Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Maiden flight; Worried about deployment because of reviews but some advice on a novel method (for me) panned out. It deployed fine.
07-17-2007 John Lee Est SU E9-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Tried the new chute packing with the E9 and it worked out great.
09-08-2007 John Lee Est SU E9-6 Very Late 5-10 mph winds Event: Monthly Launch
- Good flight with no chute problems.
10-14-2007 John Lee Est SU E9-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 10+ mph winds Event: Garner Middle School
- Landed hard on concrete breaking 2 fins
12-16-2007 John Lee Est SU E9-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Event: China Grove
- Great
05-10-2008 John Lee Est SU E9-6 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds RIPEvent: Alamo Rocketeers Monthly Launch
- Landed behind a security fence. Will try to recover when business opens again. Status: Lost
01-01-2010 Monty Liu Est SU C6-3 Very Late
(87 ft)
5-10 mph winds RIP - Used 18mm adapter got 87 feet out of c6-3 lawn darted then ejection charge when off while rocket was wedged in the ground ejection carte caused Cato Status: CATO'd
08-07-2004 David Logan Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Nice straight boost. Ejection just as it laid over on it's side. Recovered with a 22 inch Recovery Technologies chute. Built to seperate in the middle with 15 feet of shock cord.
10-11-2008 Ron Mahinske Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Event: Trailblazers 2008 Fall Rocket Camp
- First flight. Went up about 500'. very nice.
04-21-2000 MikeyR AT RMS D15-4 not recorded fairly calm - 2 18 parachutes Nice straight boost, fairly high. No parachute on the upper section. No damage, though. Nice maiden flight.
05-07-2000 MikeyR AT RMS D15-4 not recorded fairly calm - 2x18 parachutes Excellent, straight boost. Deployed both parachutes nicely.
05-24-2001 MikeyR AT RMS F39-6 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Very high, very straight flight. Both pieces ended up in the tall sugar cane. Took a while to find them, but we did. Called it a day.
06-07-2002 MikeyR AT RMS E18-7 Just Past (1-2sec) Calm - Beautiful flight and deployment.
05-09-2005 Konrad Nenning AT RMS E18-4 Apogee - Perfect
(400 m)
0-5 mph winds - Perfect launch in Stockholm Sweden. Drifted a bit too far and landed in a tree but recovered without any problems. Great rocket!
05-13-2000 Cliff Oliver Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - Ejected motor mount. 'chute tangled until approx. 100' above ground. Repairs made and ready to fly again
10-28-2000 Cliff Oliver Est SU D12-3 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - Rocket is 18 shorter than original kit with mid ejection and 12' chute good flight
12-05-2008 Cliff Oliver Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Event: December Launch
- first flight of blue n yellow
06-13-2009 Cliff Oliver Est SU E9-6 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: June Launch
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11-07-2009 Cliff Oliver Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds Event: November 2009 Launch
- Estes dents at apogee. Repairable.
05-04-2008 Jason Orosco Est SU E9-6 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Great flight. Heard a lot of horror stories about Estes E9 motors.
05-04-2008 Jason Orosco Est SU E9-6 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Great flight. Heard a lot of horror stories about Estes E9 motors.
05-25-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F20-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - needs a longer delay.
05-26-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F20-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds -
06-22-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F23-4 Just Before 0-5 mph winds - needs a 6 second delay,broke one shroud line on the chute.
07-07-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F23-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds - nice smokey boost
07-21-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F23-4 Very Early 0-5 mph winds -
10-05-2002 Randy Powell AT EconoJet F23-4 Very Early 0-5 mph winds - Stripped the chute, rocket sustained some damage but was repaired later.
05-29-2005 Peter Reed Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec)
(300 ft)
10+ mph winds - a little wobble on the way up but it was pretty windy, stock shute was obviously waaaay too big...
06-19-2005 Peter Reed Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Down Calm - went up good, a little wobble, ejedction was fine, chute did not deploy but, because it divides in center, it floated down fine, no damage sustained
06-22-2002 Scott Reilley Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down Calm - Nice take off, nice flight. Used 18 inch chute instead of 24. Landed less that 100' from launch pad. Big rocket got a lot of attention from people passing by.
10-09-2004 Michael Robbins Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - A roaring launch and spectacular flight.
02-05-2004 Todd Shero Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Beautiful flight, just wish I had found this site and tips before I painted it black. Rocket is badly warped and will be about 2 feet shorter next time she flies.
05-14-2005 Todd Shero Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up Gusty RIP - Shortened Mean Machine due to warped body tubes. Rocket flew up 500' before going horizontal. As of date of enty rocket is still hanging from a tree. Status: Tree/Roof
08-11-2002 Jeff Skinner AT SU E15-4 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Jeff Skinner - Great flight & good delay. Ejection at apogee. Too windy though with big updrafts. Had to go at least 1 mile to recover with 8 hole cut in chute.
01-23-1981 Dave Snedden Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds DaveyCrockett - This was my first rocket and at night.The audience and the initial blast went really well and landed next to a guys car who got upset then realized rockets are made of cardboard.This made my Month it was great im gonna go buy another mean machine asap.Dave
03-09-2004 Dave Snedden Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - My Mean Machine shot 3 times in a row perfect.Caught it each time.Engine smoked long after launch. BIG rush.I love this rocket and gonna put fins on the top just for fun.
02-07-2004 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS D9-4 Apogee - Perfect Calm - Perfect launch on ice covered sea in sweden. Could catch it by hand when before it hit the ice.
02-28-2004 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS E11-7 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Perfect launch on ice covered sea in Sweden. -4 Celcius.Impressing slow take off. Mean machine is really a great rocket!Altitude just above 400 meters.
03-27-2004 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS F24-6 Apogee - Perfect
(550 m)
0-5 mph winds - Excellent launch on is covered sea in Sweden. I really love my mean machine! Perfect flight and perfect landing.
12-04-2004 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS D9-4 Just Past (1-2sec) 10+ mph winds - Very nice flight. But it was nearly not possible to launch beausethe launchpad fell down caused by the wind. First RMS launch thisseason. Good to have done this 1st flight. More power will it be!!
01-30-2006 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS D15-4 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - Nice safe fly with quite tiny engine because of the wind. But still a good fly in the early rocket season in the north of Sweden.
04-08-2006 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS D9-4 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - Had a chute that was to heavy (for my Stovi). Heard the rocket whissle right towards the ground. Ejected approx 30 meters before touchdown. Puh!
02-17-2007 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS D9-4 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - A perfect flight as it use to be with the meane one!
03-17-2007 Hans Southlaunch AT RMS E11-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - Gave it some load at the front - A beeper. Worked very well. Great launch with thick black smoke!
09-01-1998 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't See Calm - nice flight, recovered undamaged, had to replace 2 sections of BT after previous flight, wish I had records of the previous flights
03-10-2001 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Very Late 10+ mph winds - Snagged on power lines where it ripped apart in the heavy winds. At least I recovered the nylon chute. May rebuild someday.
07-14-2001 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't Record Light winds - good flight, chute separated (OLD tape strips on Estes chute but no damage
10-13-2001 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - nice boost, but was lost in the weeds
02-09-2002 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't See 5-10 mph winds - Someone returned the lost Mean Machine, and despite some water damage, it flew again! Great flight! It lives!
09-14-2002 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't Record Gusty - separated - shock cord mount failed, probably due to sitting out in the weather earlier; will return, but will be shorter
11-09-2002 Dick Stafford Est SU C11-3 Didn't See Calm - flew it as a back-slider with a streamer on the cone; good flight
11-09-2002 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't See Calm - separation; body acted as a back-sliding glider; some damage when it landed in tree; duct tape to the rescue!
06-14-2003 Dick Stafford Est SU C11-3 Didn't Record 0-5 mph winds RIP - lost body section to the trees; didn't backslide as well in the almost nonexistent wind Status: Lost
02-05-2005 Aaron Stanley Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: L.U.N.A.R. @ Snow Ranch
- First flight was perfect and perfect recovery hit someone car on the way back down but no damage.
11-20-2004 Jesse Tabares Est SU E9-6 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Love this rocket. It just begs for a E9. Goes about 1600 feet. Built to speck no mods. Have flown about 8 times now no damages yet.
04-21-2007 Edwin Vonderbeck Ellis SU G37-6 Just Before Calm Event: Central Valley California
- After lift off it did 4 spirals and went horizontal and then deployed the parachute. Comment was that this would shred the rocket. It had no damage.
07-03-1999 Ron Watkins Est SU D12-5 Didn't Record Light winds - Good flight-predicted altitude-510 ft. -slight drift on recovery.
01-27-2000 Jim Zamecnik Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 10+ mph winds - No deployment of upper section chute, but fell horizantally at same rate as lower half on a 12 chute!
01-27-2000 Jim Zamecnik Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 10+ mph winds - nice flight to 550'(?), good chutes(12) on both sections, soft landing 200 yds. downwind
01-11-2001 Jim Zamecnik Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - on Lake Bomoseen. 1st flight of new PerfectFlight 4600 altimeter.....480'reported. 18'' nylon chute, ~ 400 drift.
01-18-2001 Jim Zamecnik AT RMS D15-4 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds - on Lake Bomoseen. PerfectFlite 4600 altimeter reported 580' altitude. ~300 drift on 18'' nylon chute.
   

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