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Estes
X-Prize Rubicon
P.O. Box 227, 1295 H Street
Penrose, CO 81240
(719) 372-6565
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SPECS: 22.9" x 3.210" - 7.3 oz
ROCKSIM FILE: MISSING - please submit here
SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: D12-3, D12-5

Rating
(Contributed - by Bruce D Canino - 01/02/05) Estes Rubicon

Brief:
Single stage D power scale model of an X-Prize rocket with 18" parachute recovery. It has a Saturn 1b look to it, so if you're a fan of the Saturn 1b you will probably like this kit.

Construction:
The kit includes:

  • 7 lower rocket body tubes
  • 1 upper body tube
  • 6 plastic fins
  • 2 plastic body tube holders
  • plastic nose cone
  • rubber shock cord
  • Estes paper mount
  • 6 plastic rocket nozzles for scale look

The kit has the typical Estes quality instructions with drawings and text. My version had a 1 page insert of modified Steps 1 and 2. The normal assortment of tools are needed for the build. Pay attention to the modified instructions. It will make it much easier to attached the 7 body tubes in the lower part of the rocket. The tubes are not easy to feed in so you want to make sure they seat right. Practice it several times without glue to make sure you can do it smoothly and quickly so the tubes don't catch at the wrong point.

Finishing:
The instructions have you paint the rocket after it is done. With the lower section the way it is, I think it would be hard to do it that way. I painted all the parts first, masking off the areas where glue would be applied so that I wouldn't be gluing to paint. This makes it a little harder to assemble everything without scratching the paint, but easier than trying to paint after everything is together.

The plastic parts take paint well without chipping. Krylon Original Chrome paint looks sharp on the plastic parts but seems to scratch easily.

The kit includes typical Estes peel and stick decals.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Estes Rubicon

Flight:
Flying on a D12-5 gave a perfectly straight up flight, seeming to hang in the air momentarily, and then deploy of the chute. The 18" chute seem about right for descent without too much drift.

Recovery:
The upper body tube is big and easy to pack in wadding and chute. I placed a few small balls of wadding in the engine tube and layered some full sheets in the upper parachute tube.

One of the plastic fins stuck in the soft dirt and broke off clean at the glue joint. I am thinking this might be a regular occurrence when flying this kit.

Since this kit has a plastic lower body and cones, you want to clothespin this rocket above the blast deflector otherwise you risk melting the lower section of the rocket. Check out the launch picture.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
Nice X-Prize kit with cool looking Saturn 1b lines. Listed as a Skill level one but the lower body assembly is pretty tricky to get together right.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5


Rating
(Contributed - by John R. Brandon III - 03/11/05)

Brief:
A single-staged D-powered scale representation of the Space Transportation Corporation's entry in the competition for the Ansari X-Prize.

Construction:
The rocket kit consisted of a 24mm motor mount tube, a motor block ring, a motor retainer hook, a thick stage coupler-like hook retainer ring, six tank tubes, a large main body tube, a truly massive blow molded plastic nose cone, a set of six plastic fins, a plastic fin canister, a plastic bulkhead, an assembled plastic 18" parachute, a set of six plastic nozzles, a big die-cut cardstock centering ring, a sheet of pressure sensitive decals, and a 30" x 1/4" rubber shock cord. I bought the kit at Hobby Lobby in Killeen, Texas. All the parts were included in the kit--no broken ones were found.

Estes sent an update sheet with the instructions to replace the first three steps in the instruction sheet. It would not have gone together at all well if the original instructions had been followed. This rocket is as solidly built as any Estes product I have ever seen. The temptation to go back and get another one and build it for "E"-size motors is significant...

It was easy and quick to build. I started it at 8am and finished it except for paint by ten! I added an 18" length of 1/8" round elastic cord to the existing rubber band.

PROs: solid plastic parts, Estes on the ball with instruction update.

CONs: typical too short length of shock cord.

Finishing:
Rubicon has a slightly complicated multicolor paint scheme, but it's not really that bad. Lines between colors match up neatly with lines between parts. This model is well thought out to be fairly easy to paint too. I did most of mine with a brush and Testor's acrylics. I felt that the tank tubes were pictured as black and the nose cone and fins were pictured as red, so my paint scheme is not exactly as described.

I also prefer waterslide decals to the stickers Estes is using these days, as the waterslide decals can be positioned more easily than stickers with less risk of bubbles.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
The Rubicon's recommended motors are the D12-3 and D12-5. I flew it on D12-3s.

It was easy to prepare for flight. Lots of parachute space in that 3.21" diameter main body tube! I stuffed four squares of Estes wadding down the motor mount tube and laid two more on top of it. The typical Estes motor retainer hook was the method used on the Rubicon.

If I had been a little more inclined to make minor modifications, I would have installed the shock cord differently. It seems to me that drilling two 1/4" holes in the uppermost centering ring and tying the cord there would result in a better setup than the usual paper mount.

Recovery:
Estes should make 20" parachutes. This rocket falls into the slot of too heavy for an 18" chute and not heavy enough for a 24" one. It is fortunately sturdy enough to land under an 18" chute and take no damage, even on concrete!

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
Another well-done X-Prize contender.

PROs: solid construction, excellent plastic parts, a headline-grabbing subject.

CONs: none worth mentioning.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

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GUEST's OPINION:
12/06 - "This pictures of model looks great on line, but it seems to me that it's more show than go. It catches a lot of attention at the launch site, but at every launch, I lost a fin or two, even when mounted with epoxy. So after repairing and touching up the paint, it now sits on my son's shelf - where it looks great! Reminds me of the phrase, "better to look good than to(fly)good." If you do buy it, be sure to paint if before assembly." (A.P.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/06 - "Can you say Cluster Engine? Sure. I knew you could. This thing is just begging to be clustered!" (M.S.)

GUEST's OPINION:
09/06 - "While this rocket is good looking and fun to fly - it is poorly designed. The fins drop off like flies. I have tried multiple types of adhesives and nothing has worked. It isn't just a problem on landing - standing around the thing can suddenly lose a fin. I've actually lost a couple of the fins permanently now. I'm starting to think about modifying the rocket to use some type of bolt system (nylon) to hold the fins on. " (B.S.)

GUEST's OPINION:
04/06 - "I bought my son a Rubicon for his birthday last year and we've flown it several times. However, we use a 20" nylon parachute for recovery, and other than the usual breaking off of several fins on landing, works great. I modified the model to use the Estes E9-4 as well as the D12's." (D.W.M.)

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SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
11/07 - "People complain about the fins falling off of this one. I had the same problem when I used regular Testor's cement. The problem persisted when I used Solveweld. I tried some CA and that seems to have done the trick. I have had two launches without losing a fin or nozzle when before I averaged losing 4 fins and 2 nozzles per flight." (J.A.L. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
04/07 - "My wife just built one and I suggested that she use LockTite hard plastic epoxy on any plastic-to-plastic glue joint. We sent the rocket up on an old Aerotech F-21 (modified motor mount). It was extremely cool without a scratch on it or fin lost. All paper-to-plastic glue joints use Testors orange plastic model cement. The fins and nozzles are like they were molded into position! This is a strong, stocky rocket so we though it would fly well with more power. Those outer tubes really afford extra compressive strength. On assembly, we replaced the original motor hook with an 'E' sized/length hook. This was easily done considering the motor tube is quite long... extending up into the 3" portion. It flew fast and high on an old Aerotech F-21 without a scratch. Many High power flyers (us included) were impressed!" (J.B.C. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
09/06 - "Painting the Tubes prior to assembly is a good idea, But you also need to mask the two ends prior to painting just where your glue joints are going to be. I dry assembled the tube ends and marked with a pencil where the approximate glue joint would be, masked these areas and then painted. I got very good results on paint finish and very strong joints on construction. Mike" (M.B.E. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
03/06 - "Paint the body tubes before assembly! This is very important! You will never be able to mask either the tubes or the plastic parts enough to paint them properly after assembly. Even if you airbrush it like I do, you will still have problems." (B.A. )

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
01-01-2005 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - Nice first flight, arched into the wind quite a bit making for a rather long delay. Three fins detached upon landing, some CA should fix that. No other damage.
01-10-2005 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds - Very nice flight to maybe 400 feet. Nice recovery but one fin popped off on landing, reattached with CA. No other damage.
03-07-2005 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds - Beautiful flight, straight up. I think the 18 inch chute is too small for this rocket. Once again, two fins came off on touchdown and a third fell off in transport home. No other damage.
11-04-2005 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Nice flight, for some reason, the chute was almost completely ripped apart at ejection which resulted in a hard landing and only one fin knocked off, not too bad considering how hard it hit. No major damage.
12-04-2005 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Very nice flight, very straight. Recovered very nicely on a 24 inch chute. This was the very first time I did not have a fin pop off on landing. No damage.
09-23-2006 Donald+Jr Besaw Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds - Excellent flight, very straight boost to 500 feet. Recovered nicely on a 24 inch chute and I caught this one too. No damage.
06-18-2006 Richie Brunjes Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - Shroud lines broke , came down fast, all but one fin broke off Will fly again but I will add a nylon 'chute
06-27-2006 Richie Brunjes AT RMS D15-4 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds Event: NERRF2
- Broke three fins and two fake nozzels off. Thanks to whoever it was that found and returned my pieces parts
07-23-2006 Richie Brunjes Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds - 4 fins came off , will be repaired
01-02-2005 Bruce Canino Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Up 5-10 mph winds Event: SoJar's Fire and Ice Launch
- Stright up Flight, 1 fin broke off clean at glue joint on landing
04-14-2007 John Caramagna AT EconoJet F21-8 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Pine Island, N.Y.
- Super straight, fast and high flight! Rocket is modified with larger motor hook which can accept Aerotech 'F' motor. All plastic-plastic joints glued with Locktite brand hard plastic epoxy.
08-21-2006 Michael Emerick Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Unique Rubi - Two fins came off at landing as well as two engine nozzels. Repaired on field for another flight.
08-21-2006 Michael Emerick Est SU D12-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Unique Rubi - Lost one fin and one nozzel on touchdown. Repaired and will fly again.
08-21-2006 Michael Emerick AT RMS D9-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Unique Rubi - Good flight! Stayed in one piece on touchdown
08-21-2006 Michael Emerick AT RMS D9-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Unique Rubi - Lost one fin on touchdown. Found it and repaired.
02-20-2005 Kyle Hancock Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: Viking Sport
- First flight. Pretty nice.
09-17-2006 Kyle Hancock Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect Calm - 18 chute, still lost fin
05-12-2007 Bob Harrington Est SU D12-3 None - Parachute Fail 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Section launch
- Good boost but ejection charge was weak and nose popped but chute didn't deploy. It bounced off a power line and broke the seams on a couple of the tubes. Repairable
10-20-2007 Bob Harrington OOP Est SU D13-3 None - CATO 5-10 mph winds RIPEvent: CMASS section launch
- Motor CATO. Big flame through the body. Status: CATO'd
02-21-2008 John Kroub B4-4 Apogee - Perfect Calm javapda - Great inaugural flight. Only two fins detached on landing. The Estes Rubicon is a lot of fun to launch!
02-23-2008 John Kroub B4-4 Apogee - Perfect Calm javapda - Great rocket. On landing 4 of 6 fins detached. When picked the rocket up another fin detached. Have tried wood glue, plastic cement, and super-glue...fins do not stay on securely.
07-17-2007 John Lee Est SU D12-5 Very Late 0-5 mph winds - I should have waited till I had a shorter delay. The chute barely opened in time. Only damage was to a plastic engine nozzle.
10-14-2007 John Lee Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds Event: Garner Middle School
- Landed softly on grass but still broke off 3 fins and 1 nozzle. THis seems to be a common problem with this rocket.
11-10-2007 John Lee Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Up 10+ mph winds Event: China Grove Launch
- Best flight with this rocket. Using CA on the fins means that this is the first flight I have not had to do repair work.
12-16-2007 John Lee Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Event: China Grove
- Perfect
01-12-2008 John Lee Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Event: Monthly Launch
- Great flight but a fin broke off on landing. Something on this bird always breaks on landing.
06-14-2008 John Lee AT SU E30-7 Very Late 0-5 mph winds Event: Alamo Rocketeers Monthly Launch
- Good flight for this reliable rocket
07-12-2008 John Lee Est SU D12-5 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Event: Alamo Rocketeers Monthly Launch
- popped a fin on landing, easy and common repair
03-04-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU D12-3 Just Before 5-10 mph winds -
03-26-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU D12-3 Just Before 5-10 mph winds - No fin damage, though popped loose a couple of nozzles.
09-16-2006 Kyle Yawn Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Up Calm - Good first flight. It was a very stable flight but a fin did break off upon landing, but by what I've read on here I should have expected more than one to break off.
12-16-2006 Kyle Yawn Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - Great boost. Two fins came off on the landing. They can be glued back on though.
 

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