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REV 2.4 - Sun May 16 00:37:10 2010

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Model Minutes
G-200 Carrier
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SPECS: 31" x 2" - 3.8 oz
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REC'D MOTORS: D12-3, D12-5, E9-4

Rating
(Contributed - by Chan Stevens [Who's Who Page] - 05/07/05) Model Minutes US G200

Brief:
This is a monster of a paper rocket, capable of handling 24mm motors and carrying payloads. Paper rockets in general are always a nice break from the routine and this one is certainly a break from the paper rocket norm. I had the pleasure of building a beta version of this as well as the final version. This review is based on the final version.

Construction:
The parts list for this Model Minutes kits is pretty straightforward: cardstock. Lots of it. There are also a few other items, like motor clip, plastic chutes, clay weight, and clear plastic film for the payload section, but the main components are preprinted on cardstock.

Since their recent re-entry into the US market, Model Minutes has managed to eliminate two of my biggest peeves with their instructions. #1 was the hokey 3-D glasses necessary to view the photos in the instructions, and #2 is the poorly translated (from French) instructions. These instructions were fairly well written, easy to follow, and don't require the use of glasses (the instructions do however incorrectly reflect the process for making the 3-D glasses).

The motor mount consists of a rolled paper 24mm tube, metal hook (retained via thread), and centering rings cut from foamboard stock. This is then glued into a rolled paper fuselage. Once in place, a rolled tailcone trims the aft end.

Model Minutes US G200 The standard kit includes only one launch lug, mounted at the rear of the rocket but at least offers an optional second lug towards the top. Go for the second option--this is way too top heavy and tall for a single lug at the base.

Fin construction is a bit of a pain and might have you wishing for laser cut balsa. The fins are formed into diamond-shaped "airfoils", reinforced with internal braces. I had a lot of trouble figuring this out on the beta, but the photos in the final version make this a bit easier to understand. There's just a lot of forming and gluing involved.

Model Minutes US G200 One general tip I'll offer up for forming "sharp" lines on the cardstock: on the back of the line, lightly score the line with the back end of a utility knife blade (or use a really old/dull one). This will make it a lot easier to fold on a nice crisp line. This is especially important since there are lots of folds on the fins.

The rest of the fuselage and lower body is made by rolling another body tube, a tube coupler, and a transition, then gluing everything together with very light amounts of white glue. That's another tip I'll offer up: avoid yellow wood glue, as it shrinks and can discolor the paper. White glue shrinks less and tends to dry clear.

The upper body tube (junction) is formed by rolling another cardstock piece.

The payload section consists of a coupler, a cardstock transition, and a rolled tube. Once the tube is rolled and glued into shape, you cut out 3 sections for windows. This is a bit tricky and requires a very fresh, sharp blade. The first cut is easy, but since you're cutting away most of the structure leaving only thin frames from the original cardstock, you're cutting on an increasingly more flimsy surface. I wound up putting this over a piece of PVC pipe and using the pipe as a cutting surface. Once you've cut out the windows, insert the clear plastic liner and glue it in place with plastic model cement. Go light and be careful to avoid smearing!

The nose cone is made from 3 different transition sections forming a somewhat "rounded" look rather than a straight cone. You'll need to add in plenty of the provided nose weight for stability.

Model Minutes US G200 There's an optional satellite you can build and use as a payload. I wound up building it just because it looked kind of cool and it was simple. It's basically just forming a hexagon and folding over end caps.

There are 2 plastic chutes included, one for the satellite and one for the rocket. The shroud lines are a bit short for the chute size but would probably work fine. Personally, I usually substitute one of my heavy duty mylar chutes from my range box.

Finishing:
The beauty of paper rockets is that there is no finishing involved. The colors and printed patterns are already on the parts so there is no pesky masking. Plus there are no spirals or balsa grain to fill.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Flight:
I had one flight on the prototype beta version using a D12-3. It was a pretty good flight, unfortunately the payload section was blown out by the ejection charge.

For the final version of the released kit, I stuck with the D12-3 but put in at least 3 inches of dog barf stuffed all the way down into the skinny transition tube followed by a good 5-6 squares of recovery wadding in the payload. I left out the satellite figuring I'd leave more room for wadding and the chute.

The flight was excellent. Despite 10-12 mph winds, it held a fairly straight path and deployed right at apogee.

Recovery:
The 12" chute is a bit small for this, but it landed fairly gently in tall, soft grass. Once again though, I had blown out the clear plastic payload section. Although this time it was still mostly intact, so can be taped or glued back together fairly easily.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
For a paper rocket, this one is right up there with the Model Minutes XFLR-7 among my favorite designs. It's big, nicely colored, and detailed. It flies great on a D12 too. The upgrades and improvements incorporated into the final version make this a worthwhile project.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5


Rating
(Contributed - by Dick Stafford [Who's Who Page] - 07/11/06) (OOP) Model Minutes G200 Carrier

Brief:
The G-200 is a large paper rocket that flies on 24mm motors. The diameter of the lower tube is about 2 3/8" vs the 2" in the specs above the first review--just a skosh too small to fit the Fat Boy cone that was sitting by my computer. It features a clear payload section (one of the few non-paper components) and two build options. The Orbital Launcher option deploys a paper satellite that comes down on its own chute, while the Payloader option leaves the payload section open. I chose the latter but built the satellite sans chute and inserted it in the payload section.

Construction:
This is my second Model Minutes kit and I agree the instructions are improved. There are regular photos vs the 3D photos that I couldn't see clearly. There are several minor errors, such as the instructions for building the glasses are still included but these did not affect the build. There also seem to be some product improvements since the previous review. I built the entire kit using Aleene's Tacky Glue.

Step 1 involves building the motor mount, inserting it in the lower body, adding the tail cone and the lower launch lug. This kit uses the same retention method as the XFLR-7 and the previous review has a good photo of the motor mount assembly. The one issue I see is the retainer is sized for D12 motors and will not fit the E9 properly. However, friction fitting and some tape around the motor and retainer tab should do the trick for the longer motor in my estimation. I will find out.

(OOP) Model Minutes G200 Carrier The four fins are built next. These were formed into diamond airfoils as described in the earlier review and I had no problems seeing how they went together. My only problem was that one of the internal braces shifted during the final assembly (fin 2 of 4), so I made sure the glue set on the brace before I performed the final folding of the subsequent two. You will see from my photos that the fins seem to now be mounted further aft than on the version in the previous review. The instructions mention that you can mix and match their orientation. I chose all forward-swept since it sounds like the chute may be a little undersized and this should also protect them from damage. As an added bonus with the fins forward swept, the tips are even with the end of the lower body tube, which made their installation much easier.

The rest of the model is pretty much just forming and attaching tubes and transitions. The transitions and the middle tube (the thinner one below the payload) are double walled, which is good for this sized rocket. The double walled tube required a lot of patience to get the inner and outer tabs aligned correctly, and I continued to have fit problems between components (tube-tube, tube-transition, etc). On this build, I took extreme care to cut all the pieces exactly, so I don't know what happened.

I made two deviations near the end of the build: I tied the two provided shock cords together to make one larger one and I only cut one of the panes out of the payload section. Based on the comments in the earlier review, three cutouts just seem to weaken the payload bay too much.

In summary, these are the improvements identified in the instructions:

  • Extra reinforcement for the payload bay opening
  • Suggested venting of the ejection charge my making a small opening in lower transition
  • Two launch lugs

Finishing:
The pre-printed cardstock only requires a couple of coats of clear enamel (or most any clear coat).

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
As mentioned earlier, The E9 is too long for the provided motor hook. I made a thin masking tape thrust ring between the motor tube and the motor hook and then applied several wraps of tape around the hook and overhanging motor. The wadding was all dog barf, and I used a dowel to work some down into the lowest reaches of the body tube.

The E9-4 provides a great ride for this rocket. The overall path was straight up and there was just a hint of coning. Ejection was around apogee.

Recovery:
The chute didn't appear to be fully deployed but when recovered I found that it was open but it was severely twisted and entwined with the shock cord. The Model Minutes chutes need longer riser lines and a snap swivel. Still, there was no damage on landing.

When I inspected the rocket, I notice there was some browning of the cardstock on one quadrant between the fins. This may have actually been due to the wadding I worked down above the motor. It seems strong enough to fly again, but I have concerns whether the kit could survive multiple flights on the E9.

Given the flight and damage-free recovery, I would rate the kit a 4.5 for flight/recovery. However, I will deduct a point for the charring.

Flight Rating: 3 ½ out of 5

Summary:
This is a somewhat easier kit than the XFLR-7, but I still had my difficulties. Up close, there are misalignments but from a distance, it looks OK. I will blame a lot of this on me. I have since seen another good tip for constructing paper models: apply all glue with a toothpick. This will help ensure you don't use too much as I tend to.

The construction is good for this sized paper kit--air foiled fins and double wall components make it a lot sturdier. It flies great on the E9-4 despite it not fitting the motor hook. I noted some browning of the cardstock, which tells me this kit will not be the workhorse of anyone's fleet.

Overall Rating: 3 ½ out of 5

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Date Name Motor Ejection/
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03-09-2008 Todd Mullin Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: Fiesta Island
- Crazy spin on boost! Great flight! Popped a fin off at landing.
07-08-2006 Dick Stafford Est SU E9-4 Didn't Record Calm - Flew great. The small chute also didn't open but it recovered fine (thanks due to a forgiving grassy field). These chutes need longer lines and a swivel.
06-08-2007 Dick Stafford Est SU E9-6 Very Late 5-10 mph winds - Cone came off, later found.
05-24-2008 Dick Stafford Est SU E9-6 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds RIP - Impressive altitude on this size model. Lost to long grass or trees. Status: Lost
05-07-2005 Chan Stevens Est SU D12-3 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - Slight spin, but outstanding flight. Payload tube damaged on ejection, suggest using the tip re: vent out transition.
02-05-2005 Chan Stevens Est SU D12-3 Apogee - NC Up 0-5 mph winds RIP Beta - Blew out payload section, will repair and refly Status: Zippered
   

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