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REV 2.4 - Tue Feb 16 00:08:14 2010

Semroc
SLS Sky Hook
Box 1271
Knightdale, NC 27545
(919) 266-1977
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SPECS: 20.0" x 1.34" - 4.12 oz
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SpaceCAD FILE: MISSING - please submit here
REC'D MOTORS: C11-5, D12-7, E9-8

Rating
(Contributed - by Dick Stafford [Who's Who Page] - 10/09/04) Semroc SLS Sky Hook

Brief:
This upscale of an old Estes kit is one of Semroc's new Semroc Large-Scale (SLS) line. It flies on 24mm and 29mm motors in the C to F range. The kit features thick walled body tubes, laser cut basswood fins, nylon chutes, a laser slotted tube, and a Kevlar recovery leader.

Construction:
The kit from BRS Hobbies came nicely packed with a colorful insert, which also holds the instructions. As you can see in the photos, individual parts such as the motor mount, chute, fins, and miscellaneous small parts are all individually packaged. No more dropping some small item followed by the associated searching. The parts themselves are of outstanding quality. The fins are flat and identical, the body tubes are very thick, the balsa nose cone is smooth and hard. The instructions are short but clear and include plenty of diagrams. There is even a brief history of Estes and of the kit itself. If you should be unhappy with the kit, no problemo as Semroc has a 100% satisfaction guarantee!

So the parts include:

  • one 1.34" diameter body tube, 12.25" long
  • one 29mm motor tube
  • one balsa nose cone, 4.75" long (exposed)
  • three laser cut, basswood, through the wall fins
  • one 3/16" lug
  • one thrust ring
  • one screw eye
  • one elastic cord
  • one Kevlar® thread
  • one 18" nylon chute
  • one 24mm engine mount adapter kit, consisting of Semroc SLS Sky Hook
    • one motor tube
    • two centering rings
    • one engine block
    • one engine hook (for long 24mm motors)
    • one spacer tube (to adapt short 24mm motors)
  • one large waterslide decal
  • one small specification decal, including the s/n (mine is #00040)

To build the kit, you require all the normal tools and supplies: white or wood glue, filler, paint, sandpaper, etc. I used wood glue throughout.

This was a simple kit to build and I followed the order of the instructions. I started with the 24mm motor mount, which had its own instructions. The slot for the motor clip was pre-cut and from there you glue in the motor block and the two wide and thick centering rings. These were actually pieces of tube that telescoped over the 24mm tube.

From there I proceeded to glue the motor block in the 29mm tube. You first tie the Kevlar® twine around the block. My first impulse was to go for the epoxy, but I decided to keep with the recommended wood glue.

Semroc SLS Sky Hook The next step was to round the edges of the fins and test their fit. They required a few swipes of sandpaper along their tabs. As you can see, since the motor tube fits directly into the body tube, there isn't much of a tab. You weren't asked to fill the grain at this point, so I didn't. On the EMRR review of another SLS kit, I noticed a fin popped off. I decided to see how this kit fared. If I have to make repairs, I'll try the epoxy.

Semroc SLS Sky Hook To install the motor mount, you swab a liberal amount of glue just ahead of the fin tabs and push in the mount. The fit of the tube is a little loose and you immediately glue on the fins. I set the tube fins up to dry and noticed the motor tube was sliding further into the body. Glad I caught that one! The TTW fins, despite being shallow, should add a lot of strength and made fin alignment trivial. Up to this point, everything was done in one sitting. I then paused to let the motor mount and fins dry. I went back later and added an internal fillet above the motor mount.

Next came fillets, adding the eye hook to the cone, and completing the recovery system. I didn't tie on the chute but instead added a snap swivel and added it to my stable of reusable chutes. After it was all together, I went to slide on the nose cone and found the shoulder was too large. Being balsa, sanding it down wasn't a problem and the result is a nice snug fit.

So far the PROs are: Great parts, clear instructions, straightforward build, very sturdy.

The one CON is that you have to make sure the motor tube doesn't slide out of place. This could be avoided if you let the glue set first, but the instructions say to proceed. Some sanding on the fins and cone was required, but this not a big deal and was discussed in the instructions. As a result, I don't really consider them CONs.

Finishing:
There are finishing instructions and they are typical. Minimal filling is required due to the fine grain of the cone and basswood fins. I painted the body white, nose black, and fins red, just like the cover drawing. The main decal sheet includes one large wrap that covers the top half of the body tube and a blue strip to go just below the fins. There is also a small specs decal. On the plus side, the decals are thick and easy to work with. This is a very good thing since it took me a month of Sundays to get the large decal positioned. I also swabbed the bubbles forever, and there are still a few. Anyway, I shot a clear coat to help the decals stay put. The decal color is reasonably good, especially if the background is white.

Construction Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Semroc SLS Sky Hook

Flight:
The recommended motors include a C11-5, D12-7, E9-8, and F25-9. I suspect it will fly well on any other motor in this range, such a 24mm F21 or a 29mm F20. As built, mine weighs in at 3.46oz without the adapter and 4.12oz with. This is heavier than the specified 3.0 oz.

For its maiden flight, I loaded it with the 24mm adapter and a C11-7. This is a longer delay than recommended but it's what I had. Plus I had added a strip of 'anti-zipper' cloth tape where the Kevlar® meets the top of the body tube, so I went for it. I held the adapter in with a lot of masking tape. The wadding was dog barf wrapped in Quest wadding. The flight was nice but ejection was late as predicted. Recovery was good on the largish chute. When I got to the rocket I found the eye-hook had pulled out of the cone, which was gone, and it also spat the adapter. I will split the blame on the cone since I used the wrong delay and the adapter was probably user error. All parts were recovered.

I CAed the eye hook back in, reseated the adapter, and swapped the chute for a 12 incher--there was a bit of wind early and I didn't want to feed the trees. The motor choice was a D12-5. This time the delay was shorter than recommended, but I angled the rod some to keep it from the tree line. It tore off like a bat and I didn't see where it ejected. However, recovery was 100% good this time. It was a grass landing and there were no cracked fillets even with the smaller chute.

I will try it on an E9-8 (this time a recommended motor) next weekend. I will have already submitted this review, so watch the logs below.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
The materials in this kit were as good as I've ever seen and it was a pleasure to build. The only build issue is to make sure the motor tube doesn't slip while the fins dry. This could be fixed by a piece of tape or a watchful eye, but it is a potential major "gotcha". I had to deduct a construction point here.

This is a very sturdy kit and would be a great choice for someone who wants to move on from Estes kits to mid power. With the bigger motors, you better have a nice sized field!

My thanks to Brian at BRS Hobbies for sponsoring this review!

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5


Rating
(Contributed - by Matt Gillard [Who's Who Page] - 09/05/07) Semroc SLS Sky Hook

Brief:
Semroc's SLS (Semroc large scale) range is one of the best ranges out in model rocketry. This rocket is an upscale of an old Estes rocket. The quality of everything is outstanding.

Construction:
The kit contains:

  • a body tube, 12.25" long
  • nose cone
  • 3 laser cut basswood fins
  • a 29mm motor tube
  • 3/16" launch lug
  • a thrust ring
  • a screw eye
  • knicker elastic shock cord and Kevlar®® thread
  • bright orange 18" nylon parachute
  • one 24mm engine mount adapter kit
  • waterslide decal

The quality of the kit hits you as soon as you open the bag. Everything is individually bagged. The instructions are on thick quality paper with a color outer in a booklet form. The individual components are top range especially the body tube and mounts. Kevlar® cord, and a good (but too big) nylon parachute. After building lots of Estes kits this is a real pleaser.

Construction is simple. I used standard tools and white wood glue to build everything. I was a bit concerned about using wood glue as I eventually want to use a 29mm motor and wood glue could fail and the rocket "re-kit" itself.

There are no "gotchas" except that wood glue is low tack and the 29mm motor mount had a tendency to move around a bit whilst drying.

The fins are attached through the wall, but they have the smallest of tabs and glue directly to the 29mm motor mount. I still worry about 29mm motors. I filleted the fins four times just to be on the safe side.

The instructions are so clear and every part so well made that there is nothing here that would challenge anyone that has built a few rockets before.

Finishing:
I decided not to follow the color scheme on the instruction booklet and went for a rather boring fin and nose cone paint job.

There are next to no spirals on the body tube, so one coat of sealer and primer and the rocket body tube looks good.

The decal is waterslide and provided you take your time and add a bit of washing up liquid to the water it goes on fine.

What I should have done is varnished or clear coated the rocket--I did not do this and after 3 flights the decal is chipping off. I do not consider this a flaw in the kit, just me being lazy!

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
I used a C11-5 as my first motor. The adapter has little to hold it in place other than friction. If you do not want to use a 29mm motor, then it is probably best to glue the adapter in.

The parachute has plenty of space in the body tube. I used Nomex® wadding and a swivel.

The first two flights were on C11-5s and the rocket moves on this motor. It certainly was not underpowered.

The third flight was on a D12-5 which sent the rocket high.

I'm a bit scared to fly on an E as my flying field has too many trees near by, but I want to fly on a 29motor eventually!

I think the recommended delay of 7 on the D motor is too long. 5 seconds was perfect for me.

Recovery:
The recovery was slow. The parachute is oversized and the rocket hangs in the air forever. If there is a wind you will be chasing it for some distance. After three flights I will swap to a 15 inch nylon chute with a 3 inch spill hole. I might get brave and try an E motor.

With a strong build it might even be worth trying a 12 inch chute.

Flight Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

Summary:
This is a great kit for anyone who wants to move up from Estes model rockets to mid power. The adapter allows good flights on C11 motors, which allow the rocket to be flown on smaller fields.

With the strong body tube and other quality parts this rocket, it is much more hardy than an Estes type D rocket. The only possible con is that it cost more than an Estes rocket, but I'd rather pay for the quality and it could just be that UK prices are more than USA.

Overall Rating: 4 ½ out of 5

[Submit your Opinion]

GUEST's OPINION:
06/05 - "This review is right on target. This is a superb model, in keeping with Semroc's extreme quality. I built this as a companion to my Semroc "retro-repro" Astron Sky Hook clone, and both are excellent performers. My favorite flight is on an Estes E9-8. Much more and I wouldn't get to see the whole flight. For that reason, one could consider simply gluing the 24mm adapter in place." (D.M.)

[Enter Rocket Specific Tip]

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
01/09 - "I kitbashed this by buying all the parts except the motor mount. I built it with a 18mm motor mount. With a C6-5 it has perfect park flier altitude. On the Semroc website you can buy all the parts even the decal." (M.G. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
03/06 - "To begin...this was part of my first order from Semroc, and I must say that these folks are the epitome of "courteous, professional, small-business people". There service is prompt, attentive, and they demonstrate the utmost care for the satisfaction of their customers. On this SLS Skyhook...my recommendation for gluing in the 29mm motor mount, is very similar to K.W.'s, except I did not want to use masking tape for this purpose. I have never had confidence in the strength of glue on the tape...so I used K.W.'s method (more or less) but substituted strips of regular notebook/printer/typing paper. Glue these strips around the upper and lower ends of the 29mm motor mount tube, vertically, in a "roll pattern"; making sure you do not glue them to the areas directly under the fin slots. In the end, you will have the same thing as K.W's tip; but with (I believe) a superior gluing surface, as well as eliminating the step of having to cut away the tape from the fin-attachment points. As for the large decal, apply a thin coat of Future beforehand, to the body tube; and use some good decal setting solution...and DO NOT TOUCH the decal until it is completely dry. If you still have any air bubbles, prick them with a pin, and apply some more decal setting solution. Spray with a clear coat when everything is dry, and done to your satisfaction." (G.H. )

SPECIFIC ROCKET TIP:
01/05 - "Before installing the 29mm motor tube in the airframe, wrap masking tape around the motor tube ~2.5 times near both the top and bottom. Insert the motor mount back into the airframe. The motor mount should now have a snug, but not tight fit. Mark the masking tape wherever it shows thru the fin slots and remove the motor mount. Using a sharp blade cut out and remove vertical strips from both the top and bottom masking tape wraps such that you are left with two rings of narrow vertical masking tape strips on the motor mount. Be sure to remove the tape marked thru the fin slots. Use a liberal amount of your glue of choice and glue the mount in the airframe. Be sure no tape shows thru the fin slots. This technique will ensure the motor mount tube is perfectly centered and aligned, and that the motor mount will not move around before the glue sets. The removal of the tape strips will ensure the fins fit properly, and the tape will not force all of the glue to the top of the motor mount." (K.W. )

[Enter Flight Log]
Date Name Motor Ejection/
Altitude
Wind Notes
12-03-2006 George Beever Est SU C11-5 Apogee - NC Up Calm - Nice boost, parachute tangled with shock cord, but no damage on landing. First flight of model.
03-21-2009 John Bergsmith Est SU E9-6 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds Event: Club Field
- First flight of the Skyhook. Nice straight and stable boost. Ejection was perfect, and recovered with no damage. I think the stock chute is to large in most conditions.
11-02-2006 Matt Gillard Est SU C11-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - straight as an arrow, floated down slowly on the parachute into a small tree.
11-02-2006 Matt Gillard Est SU C11-5 Apogee - Perfect Calm - straight as before, parachute slightly charred by ejection.
03-22-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - nice flight, spat motor adapter at apogee -adapter and rocket recovered, parachute is perhaps a bit big for rocket- long walk on a near calm day.
10-14-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU C11-5 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - good flight, recovered on 8 inch chute.
10-14-2007 Matt Gillard Est SU D12-7 Apogee - NC Down 0-5 mph winds - high flight, spat motor adaptor, drifted at bit even on a 8 inch chute with only a mild breeze
09-13-2009 Matt Gillard Est SU D12-7 Just Past (1-2sec) 5-10 mph winds Event: TWYCROSS 1
- great flight.
01-05-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds - i kitbashed this with an 18mm motor mount. a c-6 has a realistic take off speed a good park flier altitude.
01-05-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 10+ mph winds - a little predictabale weathercock, like the first. perfect on a c-6-5.
09-14-2009 Mark Grisco Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds - perfect park flier
06-04-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU C11-3 Very Early 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- First flight. Went higher and faster than expected on C11-3. ejected early. A C11-5 would have been better.
08-12-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU B6-4 Apogee - Perfect 10+ mph winds Event: CMASS section Launch
- Low flight but still a long drift
11-18-2006 Bob Harrington Est SU D12-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS section launch
- Beautiful flight. Supplied chute is way too big. It hung in the air a long time. Fortunately, wind was very low and drift was not too far.
01-12-2008 Bob Harrington Est SU A8-3 Just Before 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS Winter Follies
- This is a high flyer on even an A8-3. It probably should use an A8-5.
06-28-2008 Bob Harrington Est SU C6-5 Apogee - Perfect 0-5 mph winds Event: CMASS section launch
- Nice flight. Good motor for a small field
09-20-2008 Bob Harrington Est SU C6-5 Apogee - NC Down 5-10 mph winds Event: CMASS Section Launch
- Low flight. Needs more motor.
03-07-2006 Barry Mattingly AT RMS F40-10 Didn't See
(3948 ft)
0-5 mph winds Event: Plaster City TRASD
- Entered in first Aerotech Prize competition. Won easily! Installed 12 in. chute but never saw it after launch. Later found 300 yards away. See http://www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25155
02-15-2010 Jason Orosco Est SU C5-3 Apogee - Perfect Calm Flight Picture - High flight on a C engine.
02-15-2010 Jason Orosco Est SU C5-3 Apogee - NC Up Calm Flight Picture - Another great flight.
07-13-2005 Layne Rossi Est SU E9-6 Apogee - NC Down Calm Event: LDRS24
- Way Way up. It was fast off the launch rod and just got faster. Nearly missed the ejection smoke and tracked it to the horizon. A friend found it looking for his rocket and returned it to me later in the day.
10-09-2004 Dick Stafford Est SU C11-7 Just Past (1-2sec) 0-5 mph winds Event: NARHAMS
- mfg recommends a -5; late eject, eye hook pulled out of cone with a plug of balsa; also spat adapter; all parts recovered
10-09-2004 Dick Stafford Est SU D12-5 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds Event: NARHAMS
- CAed the eye hook back in and reseated adapter; very high flight; 100% good recovery (mfg recommends a -7)
10-23-2004 Dick Stafford Est SU E9-8 Apogee - Perfect 5-10 mph winds Event: ESL77
- very high flight, looked like it ejected at or near apogee, the wind had temporarily slowed for a short period and it landed 40 yard from the pad (used a 12inch chute)
07-09-2005 Dick Stafford Est SU E9-8 Didn't See 0-5 mph winds RIPEvent: Great Meadow
- High flight as expected, lost it in the sun and never saw it again Status: Lost
01-15-2006 Chan Stevens Est SU D12-7 None - CATO 5-10 mph winds RIP - Motor failure, did not fire ejection charge Status: Core Sample
   

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