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Art Applewhite Rockets - Cinco 38mm

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Art Applewhite Cinco 38mm

Brief:
The Art Applewhite 38mm Cinco is a five sided pentagon shaped flying saucer with a 38mm motor mount. Like all other Art Applewhite saucers, this one is recovered using Art's aerobrake recovery.

Construction:
This kit came in one of Art's heat sealed thick plastic bags and included the following components:

  • 1 foamboard top
  • 1 foamboard bottom
  • 2 cardboard seams
  • 1 6 inch long 38mm motor mount tube

The instructions for this kit are very good and include actual assembly photos and text that is simple to understand. Make sure to read the instructions throughly before building.

This saucer is very easy to build and the building time is very short. Unlike Art's Delta Saucer line, this one does not include a center plate.

The assembly starts with cutting out the top, then you cut out the hole for the MMT tube. You will notice that there are two circles drawn here. You cut out the inner circle straight. The outer circle has to be cut out at an angle. Same goes for the bottom or the motor tube will not fit properly. The triangular launch rod hole is then cut out.

Now you flex the corners into shape. One thing I really like here is that Art has removed the material from the corners. This makes it much easier to flex the corners into the proper shape.

I then glued one of the seams into place. White glue is recommended here but I used epoxy instead and would recommend epoxy for construction, especially if you plan to fly this on an I motor.

It is then recommended that you spread a thin film of white glue into the edges to reinforce them.

That completes the assembly of the top.

The bottom is constructed the same as the top except there are two lines along the edge of the bottom. You cut out the bottom on the outer line and the inner line has to be cut at an angle so the bottom will fit properly against the top.

The motor mount and launch lug holes are cut out in the same manner as the top. The remaining seam is then glued into place, and like the top, white glue is used to reinforce the corners.

This completes the bottom. All that is left is to install the motor tube which I applied an epoxy fillet and then install the bottom and apply fillets in all areas where the top and bottom meet.

PROs: Builds very fast.

CONs: None.

Finishing:
This rocket really does not require any finishing due to the smooth finish of the white foamboard but if you wish to paint it, make sure you seal all exposed foam edges as some paint solvents will attack the foam. Trust me, I did a quick test by spraying some Krylon primer on a scrap piece of foamboard and watched as the Krylon ate right through it.

I left mine white as is and I think that was a good decision.

PROs: Finishing optional.

CONs: None

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Flight:
While Art does not recommend any specific motors for this rocket, he does recommend any 38mm G, H, or I motor with an average impulse of 50 to 250 newton-seconds average impulse. There certainly are a lot of options in that range.

The prep for this rocket couldn't be any easier. You just friction fit the motor and you're ready to go.

For my first flight, I loaded up an Aerotech 38/120 G67R reload. This turned out to be a great maiden flight motor. The Cinco took off straight and rather quickly under the small but bright Redline flame of the G67.

For the second flight, I loaded up an Aerotech 38/240 H123W reload. This was a really nice flight with the bright white flame, thick smoke cloud and loud roar of the White Lightning motor.

PROs: Flies great on a huge variety of motors.

CONs: None.

Recovery:
This rocket like all of Art's saucers uses aerobrake recovery. After motor burnout on both flights, the Cinco flipped over and aerobraked down at a rather slow speed and appeared to land softly but on the second flight, it landed in some nearly chest high (4+ feet tall) weeds which made me really glad I left it white or finding it could have been much harder or maybe even impossible.

Also, make sure to use short or medium delays with reload motors so the delay element can burn out before landing and make sure you do not add any ejection powder either.

PROs: Recovers quickly and easily.

CONs: None.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
I really liked this saucer. It was very easy to build and flew great. I also noticed that it actually seemed to fly better than the Delta Saucer and didn't seem to oscillate in flight nearly as much as the regular saucers.

Also, if you add Art's optional "mustache" device, it will qualify as an acceptable NAR/TRA level 1 attempt rocket.

Priced at $30.00 with free shipping, I feel it's a bargain and Art will also throw in a free rocket for you as well.

Main PROs: Builds quickly and easily, flies great, and recovers easily.

Main CONs: I really cannot think of any.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2007-10-06Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG67-0- Great first flight, nice red flame from the G67R, great little motor. Landed close by. No damage.
    2007-10-06Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH123-0- Very nice second flight, nice bright white flame and thick smoke cloud from the H123W. I had a...
    2007-11-03Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmI161-0- Awesome flight, very quick off the pad. Huge flame, thick smoke cloud and loud roar from the...
    2007-12-06Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG61-0- Excellent flight after a rather slow ignition of the G61W, smoked for a few seconds before it...
    2008-02-12Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG69-P- Excellent flight, first time I used the G69N endburner, great motor, nice steady 2 second burn....
    2008-05-03Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH123-0- Excellent flight. Flew straight up and actually aerobraked in reverse. No damage.
    2008-09-24Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG67-0- Great flight, love that G67R, loud, powerful, bright red flame. No damage.
    2008-10-04Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG69-P- Great flight on the G69N EB, I really like this motor, Landed close by. No damage.
    2008-10-11Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG69-P- Another great flight on the G69N EB, tumbled down on recovery. No damage.
    2009-01-23Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG339-P- Awesome flight, ripped off the pad in a BIG hurry to maybe 200 feet. I love super charging these...
    2009-05-03Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG61-0- Great flight, demo flight for some new friends on their horse farm. Startled his horses a bit but...
    2009-07-04Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH180- Flew great on another Research load, this time an H180 Yellow Flame load. Nice bright flame and...
    2009-07-04Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH33- Flew on a 38mm Research roughly H33 Black Smokey load, this motor had about a 7 - 7 1/2 second...
    2009-08-01Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH70- Nice flight on this research 2 grain black smokey motor. Nice long 4-5 second burn. Tumbled on...
    2009-09-05Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH130- Drag race with my gold delta saucer. This one was the first off, didn't see much of a flame...
    2009-10-03Donald Besaw's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmI160- Excellent flight on this 38mm 4 grain smokey load. Landed almost right next to the pads. No damage.
    2010-09-04Ken Jarosch's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmG67-0- CINCO: Second flight with a G motor in the NEW 38MM/360/RAS. The G67R had a great RED plume and...
    2010-10-02Ken Jarosch's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH123-0- CINCO. 38/360/RAS Hardware. Big White flame to a great height on this long burn motor. Good...
    2010-10-09Ken Jarosch's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmH148-0- CINCO: Using 38/360/RAS hardware the H148R put in another great TRA flight to about 400' with...
    2010-10-23Mark Kulka's Art Applewhite Rockets 38mm Cinco "440 Six Pack"G69-0- LOUD, thrilling boost on Warp-9 end-burning reload. Impressive altitude. Aerobrake recovery with...
    2010-10-30Ken Jarosch's Art Applewhite Rockets Cinco 38mmI161-0- CINCO: First 'I' motor. Lots of smoke, flame and altitude. Very bad tumble recovery and hit on a...

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