Estes - Der Red Max (651) [2007-]

Attributes

Center Of Pressure:		13 inches from front (Rocksim/Rocksim)
Manufacturer:		Estes
Model:		651
Production Years:		2007-

Reviews

• Estes - Der Red Max (651) [2007-] By Todd Mullin (March 25, 2008)
• Estes - Der Red Max (651) [2007-] By Douglas Gardei (September 19, 2007)

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Rocksim Design Files

• Der Red Max

Plans/Instructions

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Flight Log

Date	Rocket Name	Motor(s)	Altitude	Notes
2002-05-19	Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max	B6-6	-
2003-09-20	Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2003-09-20	Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2006-07-08	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2007-09-22	Donald Besaw's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Great first flight. Didn't get much altitude on the B motor though, maybe 200 feet tops. Landed...
2007-09-22	Donald Besaw's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Now this is the way this rocket should be flown, excellent flight on the C6-5. Straight boost to...
2007-09-22	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2007-12-06	Donald Besaw's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Great flight, nice straight boost. Landed in some tree branches and required some effort to...
2008-01-12	Craig Zicafoose's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Great flight. Substituted over sized kit chute for small nylon chute. Love the Skull and...
2008-01-26	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Perfect flight, arrow straight
2008-01-27	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2008-02-23	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Stuck on launch rod... Not really much of a flight!
2008-02-23	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2008-03-09	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2008-03-09	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Wonder flight on this rocket. The parachute on this rocket gives it a nice long and gentle...
2008-03-22	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2008-03-22	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-
2008-04-13	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-	Another great flight.
2008-04-13	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-	Great flight, Glad Estes released the Der Red Max.
2008-04-20	Bill Eichelberger's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Who doesn't like Der Red Max flights? I cloned one years ago, but this was my first flight of a...
2008-07-28	George Beever's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	First flight on model, great flight!
2008-08-10	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	A8-3	-
2008-08-10	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2008-08-30	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2008-08-31	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-	Great flight.
2008-10-05	George Beever's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Great flight, nice motor for this model.
2008-10-12	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2008-10-25	Donald Besaw's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Great flight, nice straight boost to maybe 600 feet. Long hang time and short drift on recovery....
2008-11-15	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C11-3	-	very windy. nice flight. very cold!!!
2008-11-22	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2008-11-23	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Straight boost, nice overall flight. Seems like the 3 second delays work best. Solid performing...
2008-11-26	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	really went high. i lost it for a second because of the sun. landed 100 feet from pad.
2008-11-26	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	first flight. due to the cold the chute did not fully open until about 50 feet high. no problem.
2008-11-29	Mark H's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Nominal C6-5 first flight for re-issue DRM. Not too high, maybe 500 feet.
2008-12-20	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Der Red Max is a great flyer period! Nice straight boost, ejected perfectly. Recovered with no...
2009-01-11	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-01-11	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-02-15	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-02-15	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-02-23	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	this is my red max with 15 inch extended body tube. weathercocked somewhat.
2009-02-23	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	perfect flight. minor fin break on landing.
2009-02-23	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	my extended red max. perfect on a c-6-3.
2009-02-28	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-03-28	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Predicted Duration Entry - 45 sec est., 57 sec. actual
2009-03-28	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-	Good Flight.
2009-03-28	John Venable's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	A perfect spinner to 700. Nice deployment on a 12 X-chute.Nice flight.
2009-04-04	John Venable's Estes Der Red Max	C6-7	-	Nice flight to 700'. Short walk due to the long delay.The LCO sounded like Chris Berman waiting...
2009-04-12	Mark H's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	A little windy. This rocket drifts. Nice flight as usual.
2009-05-05	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	perfect flight. straight up with a very slow roll. like i planned it that way. some drift but good...
2009-05-31	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	this red max is 25+ years old!! perfect flight. nice to see old rocket rip.
2009-06-04	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	more wind, more weathercock. several spectators for my 30 inch red max. fin popped off. this...
2009-06-04	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	my 30 red max. straight up. nice flight. cracked fin.
2009-06-06	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	Another great flight, recovered with no damage.
2009-06-16	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-	Great flight.
2009-06-22	Jamie Martin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-06-23	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	my extended red max. another perfect flight. no damage
2009-06-24	Jamie Martin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2009-06-24	Jamie Martin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2009-07-04	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	first flight of my extended red max.(standard kit + 18 inch body tube). perfect flight, it took a...
2009-07-04	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	another perfect flight on the extended red max!!
2009-07-13	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	another perfect flight for my 30 inch red max!! i flew it for 3 young neighbor kids that had never...
2009-07-19	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	my brother and i tried to drag race but my weak batteries made for a slow take off. perfect...
2009-07-19	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	my extended red max. extra delay was ok today, it was calm. perfect flight
2009-07-19	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	like a broken record... another perfect flight for my extended red max.
2009-07-19	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-	i will say it again.... another perfect flight for my extended red max!!!!!
2009-08-08	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	D12-5	-	my MEGA MAX. scratch-built red max + 18 tube+ 24mm motor mount. rips on a D-12. lots of wind =...
2009-08-09	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-
2009-08-15	John Venable's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Nice fast spinning flight to 750'.Broke fin upon landing. WFA
2009-08-22	Chan Stevens's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-
2009-08-29	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B4-2	-
2009-09-21	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	First Flight of Der Red Max at Blackrock dessert. Used a loaned nylon chute and Dog Barf because...
2009-10-03	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Third Flight at Plumas Lake. Excellent flight.
2009-10-03	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Got a second Red Max kit with the Pirate Chute - attached with a swivel. Perfect flight on new...
2009-10-10	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	standard max.. weathercock with all this wind today.. another nice flight.
2009-10-12	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	red max = perfect!!!!!!!!!!
2009-10-12	Mark Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	SEE ABOVE
2009-11-14	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Delay a bit long, but otherwise a nice flight.
2009-11-15	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Another great flight!!
2009-11-21	Monty Liu's Estes Der Red Max	A8-4	125 feet	Got Supprizing proformance from the recently re released A8-4 Motors it Was a first flight so i...
2009-11-22	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Ejected just past apogee, but a nice flight.
2009-12-05	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Ejected just past the top, but nice flight.
2010-02-14	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2010-02-14	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-
2010-02-14	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-3	-
2010-02-15	Judy Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-4	-	Great flight, landed on all 3 fins.
2010-02-15	Judy Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-4	-	Good flight.
2010-02-20	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Drag race with Blue Max for EMRR challenge. Nice flight.
2010-03-07	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	D12-5	-	24mm Blue Max, great flight. Gets some altitude with a D12!
2010-03-07	John Bergsmith's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Windy, but a great flight!
2010-03-27	Ken Tsai's Estes Der Red Max	F35-8	-	24mm motor mount... wheee!!!
2010-04-18	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-4	-	Out launching with my daughter today, Good flight.
2010-04-18	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-4	-	Good flight trying get a shot of a drag race.
2010-04-18	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Another good flight.
2010-04-19	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Nice flight. Happy rocket.
2010-05-15	Ken Tsai's Estes Der Red Max	E15-7	-	Red Max really does love 24mm motors. Might be time to build one that will take 29mm?
2010-05-29	Ken Tsai's Estes Der Red Max	F35-8	-
2010-07-17	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	D13-4	-	Flew it a Fresno on a D13-4 Composite. Really fast takeoff, but not too high a flight. Really...
2010-08-04	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Fun flight at NARAM 52. Perfect apogee eject and nice flight.
2010-08-15	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2010-08-15	Todd Mullin's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2010-08-28	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Tangled chute. Minor BT damage.
2010-09-11	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-
2010-09-11	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2010-11-06	Jim Bassham's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Used Der Red Max to try a Badmitton loft for an upcoming contest. Got an 11 second badmitton toss,...
2010-11-13	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2010-11-13	Howard Smart's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-
2011-02-07	Jason Orosco's Estes Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Nice straight flight,
2011-05-28	Luis Vazquez's Estes Der Red Max	Estes B6-4	-	With the B6-4, Der Red Max flew straight up with minor twisting and reached appogee rather...
2011-05-30	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	First Flight of Der Red Max! Also the first flight of what turned out to be a perfect day on the...
2011-05-30	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Nice second flight of Der Red Max. Quick boost, arcing over at the top of the climb. Past apogee,...
2011-05-30	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Red Max	D10-5	-	Last flight of the day, decided to send Der Red Max for a ride on an AT D10-5. Tried to light it...
2011-07-03	George Beever's Estes Der Red Max	Estes C6-5	-	Good flight.
2011-08-05	Chris J Taylor's Der Red Max	B4-4	-	Solid maiden flight, no damage next time C6-5 will push the limits
2011-08-20	Dale Marshall's Der Red Max	C6-3	-	This is a beauty of a rocket and it flies great. This was a great flight in light winds.
2011-09-06	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Nice boost, smooth and straight. Arcing over, still climbing a little at ejection. Nose cone...
2011-09-06	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Blue Max	D12-5	-	First Flight of the 24mm Blue Max. Great boost, fast and high. Arcing over at the top of the...
2011-09-11	Douglas Hurstell's Der Red Max	B6-4	200 feet	Still has only a coat of primer, but it was a nice straight boost, and a nice soft landing. ...
2011-09-16	Kirk Mona's Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Maiden flight. Not very high on this engine. Parachute came out but did not unfurl. I think it was...
2012-01-14	Matthew Bond's 1.61x Upscale Der Green Max	F40-7	-	First Flight of the upscale Der Green Max, with the cool decals from Stickershock! Nice boost,...
2012-01-15	Luke Wolski's Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Motor burned through on the side, and the ejection charge blew about 30 feet in the air.
2012-03-10	Matthew Bond's 1.61x Upscale Der Green Max	G53-7	1870 feet	Nice second flight for Der Green Max. Wind starting to pick up a bit. Flown off the low power...
2012-03-17	Hans "Chris" Michielssen's Estes Der Red Max Clone	Estes C6-5	-	Perfect Red Max flight. No damage on recovery.
2012-03-24	Kirk Mona's Der Red Max	C6-5	-	Beautiful straight ascent. Excellent engine choice for this rocket. Drifted far, approx 300 feet...
2012-03-31	Luke Wolski's Der Red Max	B6-4	-	Good flight
2012-04-15	James Hamilton's Der Purple Max	Estes C6-5	-
2012-04-28	Matthew Bond's Estes Der Blue Max	D12-5	-	Doubled up the nomex chute protector to try and avoid some of the "toasting" seen on the last...
2012-05-06	George Beever's Estes Der Red Max	Quest C6-5	-	Perfect flight!
2012-05-12	Hans "Chris" Michielssen's Estes Der Red Max Clone	Estes B6-4	400' est. feet	The 18" parachute was switched out for the 12" chute from the Pipeline rocket. Good thing - the...
2012-05-19	John Bergsmith's Der Red Max	Estes C6-3	-
2031-05-05	Eric Grisco's Estes Der Red Max	B4-4	-	weathercocked a good bit so not to high. no damage.