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Estes - Shuttle Xpress (2183) [2003-2010]

Manufacturer:Estes
Diameter:1.3300 inches
Skill Level:2
Style:Exotic, Glider

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(Contributed - by Chan Stevens - 04/01/03)

Rocket PicBrief:
The modern, E2X reincarnation of the ARV Condor, this kit is a quick, easy build and eye-catching design. At apogee, (2) separate gliders break free to circle the field while the main rocket eases down under chute.

Construction:
The 2003 Estes line seems to be carefully packed, with each body tube enclosed in plastic. The nose cone is an unusual appearance, with a raised canopy and a duct area underneath. The fins are plastic, rugged enough to handle C's. The motor retention compartment is a 2-piece plastic housing with a quick release cap. Shuttles are made from pre-cut styrofoam (1-piece) wings, fuselage, and hook. Shock cord is standard Estes 1/8", and way too short.

The package boasts of total build time in under an hour, and most modelers will find that to be true. The parts fit very well, and the directions were easy to follow.

Pros-fit and finish. The body tubes come fully detailed (decals already on). The only "assembly" work is the motor retention compartment, gluing on the plastic fins, and mounting the shock cord. A very nice plus is that the Estes chutes seem to be all pre-assembled this year.

Cons-Gluing the styrofoam glider parts together is a bit messy, especially the rudder, which is glued in after placing a decal over the top of the fuselage. The decal was also a bit tricky, as you're supposed to cut a slot in it after putting it on the fuselage, and the slot you cut is supposed to line up with the now-covered slot on the fuselage. Trimming the gliders is weak, as the ailerons are pre-cut into the styrofoam, and don't tend to stay flexed for very long.

I'd also gladly pay an extra dime or so if Estes would get rid of the 1/8" elastic shock cords that might last 3-4 flights, and replace them with 1/4" or even Kevlar®.

Finishing:
This is a very nice looking rocket/shuttle combo. Very little finishing work is required at all.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:
First flight was under perfect conditions (72 degrees, winds under 5 mph, we only get about 3 of these days a year in Ohio). I flew it on a B4-4. Straight up flight, slight spin, deployed right at apogee. Gliders seemed to stick for a second or two, then broke loose. #1 came down very fast & steep, #2 seemed better trimmed and circled a bit on the way down, but still had a somewhat steep decent. Everything was recovered safely within about 50 yards of the pad.

Recovery:
As mentioned, trimming the gliders is difficult, as the styrofoam tends to have a "memory". I definitely refer the ARV condor's gliders to these foam gliders.

Flight Rating: 3 out of 5

Summary:
This is a great introduction to boost gliders. Fast, easy, and neat appearance. For the experienced modeler, the gliders will be a bit disappointing.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2002-01-26Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Nice first flight. Both shuttles augered to the ground almost straight down. Need to do some major...
    2002-11-30Jon Revelle's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Good Flight, Good Recovery. Gliders however didn't work well and they nose-dived. (00-00-03 means...
    2003-01-26Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Nice first flight, both shuttles augered to the ground almost straight down. I need to do some...
    2003-02-05Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-2- Nice flight. Delay was longer than 2 seconds. Nice glide from one shuttle, the other augered into...
    2003-03-16Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-4- Very nice flight. Finially got two decent glides from both shuttles. No damage.
    2003-03-16Chan Stevens's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Cheap foam gliders did OK, not great
    2003-07-06Bill Eichelberger's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Kid's launch. Added a rock to the clay in the glider's back end. Still no help. They need work,...
    2003-07-06Bill Eichelberger's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-6- Kid's launch. Gliders flew somewhat better after clay had been added, but still need work.
    2003-07-21Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Very nice flight. Both shuttles actually glied down perfectly and both also landed in a water...
    2003-08-10Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Very nice flight although the booster landed in some standing water and was half submerged when I...
    2003-08-31Donald Besaw's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Nice flight after drying out completely from the last flight. Rocket and one shuttle was recovered...
    2003-09-27Jim Salem's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-3- Great flight and great glides from both gliders --- be sure to follow my tip above to turn the...
    2003-11-02Bill Eichelberger's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Glider trim attempt #3.
    2003-12-25Jon Revelle's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Good flight. Gliders nose-dived. Rocket landed 2 feet from the pad.
    2003-12-30Jon Revelle's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Chute almost didn't open. Need new glider mount.
    2004-04-24Kyle Hancock's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- No gliders. Shock cord seperation, no damage and all parts recovered.
    2004-06-05David Logan's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Great flight and glides. Flaps were glued in a vertical position and worked great.
    2004-06-26David Logan's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Seemed to go a lot higher than previous flight. The rocket landed before the gliders about 200...
    2004-07-17Dwayne Surdu-Miller's Estes Shuttle XpressA8-3- Low boost, ejection about 10 feet from ground. Severely underpowered. Don't use A8-3!
    2004-07-31Brian Mercer's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Flew without gliders. The parachute melted a bit. my chute packing was done by my 2 yr old. Well,...
    2004-07-31Brian Mercer's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-4- Those gliders are DOGS, no offense to the pooches. They flew like rocks. The booster flew great.
    2004-11-13T Muir's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Weather cocked into wind. Gliders made steep dive. Need to work on flaps to get increased flight...
    2005-10-01David Logan's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Good low flight, one glider gracefully circled back down, landing within 5 feet of launch pad, the...
    2006-05-04Matt Gillard's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-2- clean separation, gliders red baroned in, far to nose heavy.
    2006-05-18David Culp's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Good straight up flight, gliders came straight down, lost one though. Good rocket, gliders stink.
    2006-07-08 Moe Bertrand's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Good boost - gliders suck as gliders.
    2006-08-20Kyle Hancock's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-3-
    2007-08-25John Lee's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Rocket worked great and looks good; gliders did not work at all and tumbled all the way home.
    2007-11-10William Beggs's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Great flight and reovery.
    2007-11-10William Beggs's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-3- Great flight and reovery.
    2007-11-10William Beggs's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Great flight and reovery.
    2007-12-16John Lee's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-5- Perfect flight-garbage gliders. I'm keeping the rocket but the glider 1 did not survive descent...
    2008-01-12John Lee's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- great flight without the parasites.
    2008-01-26Tom Benson's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Flaps at about 25* and some tail weight added, but the gliders still dropped faster than I'd like....
    2008-03-02Natalie Ryan's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Flew w/o shuttles on a windy day. Delay clocked in at over 6 seconds - way too late. Chute popped...
    2008-04-06Natalie Ryan's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Nice flight, much better delay this time.
    2008-05-25JST's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Nice, but slow first flight. Only seemed to go up about 450 feet. Gliders did not detach until...
    2008-05-25JST's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Nice flight up to around 700 feet. Gliders detached themselves with SPEED right around the time...
    2008-08-26Matt Gillard's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-2- gliders stil came in steep, 10 seconds fall
    2009-01-17 John Lee's Estes Shuttle XpressA8-3- good low flight without the gliders
    2009-03-07John Bishop's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-3- 1st flight. Painted bottom of glider wings black, but still lost one. Too busy watching booster...
    2009-03-08John Bishop's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-4- Launched with one glider- arrow straight boost. Glider came down hard and fast, falling not...
    2009-03-21Matt Gillard's Estes Shuttle XpressB4-2- gliders nosed in hard
    2010-02-14John Bishop's Estes Shuttle XpressC6-5- Flight without gliders, excellent flight.
    2010-02-14John Bishop's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- One glider disengaged during boost, the other came down and glided beautifully.
    2010-02-14John Bishop's Estes Shuttle XpressB6-4- Second flight where 1st glider disengaged on the boost. 2nd glider spiraled beautifully. Must...
    2011-11-06Ed Rodrigo's Shuttle Xpress (2183)B6- First flight with a trusty B6-4. Skipped the gliders for the first flight just to make sure it...
    2011-11-06Ed Rodrigo's Shuttle Xpress (2183)B6-4- First flight with the gliders. Wind was low, and everything went fine. Both gliders recovered.
    2011-11-06Ed Rodrigo's Shuttle Xpress (2183)C6-3- First two flights with B6-4 motors went well, so got adventurous and decided to put in a C6-3. ...
    2012-03-24Dwayne Shmel's Shuttle XpressB4-2- Perfect flight and safe recovery. Gliders flew well.

    Comments:

    C.S. (March 17, 2003)

    I flew this weekend in perfect conditions (70 degrees, hardly a trace of wind) and agree that the gliders are nose heavy, beyond simple aileron adjustment. I bent the ailerons as far as they'd go, but the "memory" of the Styrofoam worked 'em back, and both gliders went through steep descents/dives.

    J.R. (July 2, 2003)

    I think it looks like the Code Red/Ionizer/Tidal Wave with a spiffed up NC and 2 gliders.

    D.L. (June 6, 2004)

    I flolded the flaps up vertical, and held them in place with pins. Then glued them up using Weldbond brand white glue. I flew it on 6-5-04 with a C6-5, and the gliders did wonderful. They circled the launch site like a couple of hawks hunting their prey. The only other mod I plan to do now, is paint the bottom of the gliders black so they will be easier to see.

    D.L.S.M. (June 27, 2004)

    The reviews are great, except when discussing glider trimming. The gliders are, indeed, quite nose-heavy and require a substantial amount of tail-weight for a stable glide. Aileron adjustment is all that is mentioned in the kit's instructions, but that isn't anywhere near sufficient.

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