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Public Missiles - Phobos

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Contributed by Aaron Stanley

Phobos

Brief:
The Public Missiles, Ltd. Phobos is one of the great, easy to build mid and high power rockets out there you can buy. This rocket can be launched on any where from a F40 all the way up to a J570 if you get it with the 38mm motor mount. This is probably the best rocket to use for your Level 1 cert attempt, which I used it for. The only down side to this kit is you have to clean out the main airframe after every two flights due to the ejection charge.

Construction:
The Phobos kit contains all the parts necessary to build a flying mid/high power rocket:

  • 1 pre-slotted main airframe
  • 1 payload airframe
  • 1 airframe coupler tube
  • 1 coupler bulkplate
  • 1 coupler hardware set, consisting of:
    • 1 Eyebolt
    • 1 Washer
    • 2 Nuts
  • 1 nose cone
  • 3 G10 fins
  • 1 piston ejection kit, consisting of:
    • 1 piston tube
    • 1 slotted bulkplate
    • 1 piston strap
  • 1 D-ring
  • 1 parachute
  • 1 motor mount tube
  • 1 airframe to MMT centering ring
  • 1 notched airframe to MMT centering ring
  • 1 shock cord
  • 2 launch lugs
  • 1 decal sheet
  • 1 instruction sheet

The construction of this rocket went together like any other high power rocket. The only problem I ran into was trying to get the strap for the piston ejection system through the notched centering ring.

Finishing:
The finish was super easy. Just sand it and paint it.

Construction Rating: 5 out of 5

Phobos FlightFlight:
First flight was on a F40-4W. It was a perfect flight to about 300 feet except the motor casing kicked. (I did find the motor.)

Second flight was successful on a H165R-M for my NAR Level 1 certification.

Third flight was with a G64-7W. Yet another perfect flight and perfect recovery except it hit a person's truck and broke a fin off.

The fourth flight was a H180W-M. WOW! Out of sight! I almost lost it but I was able to regain sight of it as it came back down on with a tangled parachute. It landed hard but with no damage.

Recovery:
The recoveries are good but a little too fast for my liking. The only thing I would change about the recovery is up grade to a 48 inch parachute instead of a 36 inch parachute.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
The main PROs of this kit are:

  • Easy to build
  • Easy to finish
  • Great for flying on G and H motors

The cons are:

  • Hard to put the piston strap through the notched centering ring
  • Falls to fast with a 36 inch parachute

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    1989-01-04Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosF40-4- Perfect flight for an F40-4 in kind of a big rocket. It's a little under powdered. PML needs to...
    2000-03-25Kirk Beaumont's Public Missiles PhobosG80-10- CATO. . . shattered the 38/29 motor adapter. . . no other damage!
    2000-04-02Kirk Beaumont's Public Missiles PhobosG80-7- Ditto
    2000-05-13Kirk Beaumont's Public Missiles PhobosH55-10- Level 1 cert. . . It was windy so there was some weathercocking. Found about 1/2 mile away. No...
    2000-06-17Kirk Beaumont's Public Missiles PhobosG80-7- This flight I thought the rocket was a goner! The motor sputtered on the pad and then took off...
    2000-06-17Kirk Beaumont's Public Missiles PhobosH180-10- Perfect flight as far as I could tell. Screamed right off the pad and then landed about 100 feet...
    2000-09-10Brian Kain's Public Missiles PhobosH123-10- Fun kit to build and fly. I recommend shortening the span of the fins by an inch. It was...
    2000-09-15Mik Ishmael's Public Missiles PhobosI435-L5000 feet Acceleration 34.7G, 1105 feet/sec, 5000 feet at apogee. Both launch lugs, area 3 inches behind...
    2000-12-16Brian Kain's Public Missiles PhobosF40-4- Again as before I got a bonus delay. $ would be perfect, but I got about 6 seconds again.
    2001-06-09Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosF52-5- This rocket flys great on an F52. Lost sight in the sun. I asked bystander if he saw it and said...
    2001-08-05Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Great flight with this rocket. Landed close.
    2001-11-03Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosF40-4- Rocket was a little bit under powered in this wind but was stable and flew OK. Landed a little...
    2002-04-21Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosF52-5- Last flight of the day at CTRA. Considering winds lands real close. The F52 is a good small field...
    2002-06-01Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Nice flight with a G64-7 in winds. Spill hole in chute really helps this rocket to get down fast...
    2002-10-06Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosH128-S- Nice flight on an H128. Lands in next field over missing a canal and trees.
    2002-11-03Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- The seven second delay of the G64 was perfect for this rocket today, lands close.
    2003-05-26Samuel Rodriguez's Public Missiles PhobosG40-4- Rocket shot from the pad. Reached an altitude of 1200' Chute popped at apogee. Comes down fast....
    2003-06-07Samuel Rodriguez's Public Missiles PhobosG80-4- What a sweet rocket to launch. Rocket screamed from the pad. Chute deployed perfect. Rocket landed...
    2003-06-21Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG40-7- Sweet flight on the G40. 7 sec delay was a good 3 sec TOO LONG. Now I know that it works, I plan...
    2003-08-16Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG35-4- Straight as an arrow flight up despite the wind. 4sec delay was perfect. Descended quickly but...
    2003-10-05Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Nice flight with winds, lands AOK not far from the pads.
    2003-10-18Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosCESH153-10- My L1 cert flight. Weathercocked into the wind but like the Energizer Bunny, it just kept going &...
    2004-01-17Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosCESH153-10- RIPPED off the pad! Even with the wind, it got way up there :) What a great motor for this...
    2004-02-21Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG35-4- Excellent flight however ejection was closer to 3 seconds causing the airframe to run into payload...
    2004-05-08Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Nice flight on G64-7.
    2004-06-06Bret Packard's Public Missiles PhobosH128-M- Bear Creek Lake Park. Awesome flight. Cocked slightly into the wind at take off. Perfect...
    2004-06-19Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- My very 1st RMS launch! Test flight for my new rocket beeper too. Everything went flawlessly....
    2004-07-17Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-4- Great flight on G64. Another rocket lands right on top of it!
    2004-08-07Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosH238-M- Good flight on an H238-M
    2004-10-16Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Zipped off the pad for a sweet flight. Recovered only 100ft from the pad. Can't beat the Phobos!
    2004-11-14Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG64-4- Very windy out today but I was determined to launch something. Shortened the delay on a G64-7W but...
    2004-11-20Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosH180-M- Screamed off the pad. Very similar to previous flights on Pro38 H153. Nose cone came off & was...
    2005-01-20Doug Knight's Public Missiles PhobosG80-7- Nice engine for a small field with this rocket. Straight up flight. A fin popped off upon landing...
    2005-01-20Doug Knight's Public Missiles PhobosH128-M- Very fast liftoff. Arced over slightly before parachute ejection. No damage. Level 1 certification...
    2005-02-05Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH165-10- Perfect Flight. Went to about 2000 feet I'm guessing. This rocket is probably the best rocket for...
    2005-02-05Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosF40-4- Perfect flight for an F40-4 in kind of a big rocket. It's a little under powdered. PML needs to...
    2005-03-05Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Perfect flight and perfect recovery except it hit someones truck and broke the fin off the same...
    2005-03-19Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosH123-M- Excellent way to start the day. It ripped off the pad for an amazingly vertical flight. Recovered...
    2005-03-19Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosH123-M- How do you celebrate 10 flights? By launching it an eleventh time :) Another impressive flight....
    2005-04-02Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH180-M- Great out of sight flight. The parachute didnt full open and the rocket almost lands in a tree....
    2005-05-07Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH210-10- WOW THIS IS ANOTHER AWESOME MOTOR FOR THIS ROCKET! IT WENT TO ABOUT 3000 FEET AND LANDED ABOUT...
    2005-05-14Alex Kowaleski's Public Missiles PhobosH128-L- Excellent flight on an H128 reload for my Jr. level one certification. The ejection was somewhat...
    2005-06-18Joe Cacciatore's Public Missiles PhobosG64-4- Nice flight on G64, lands in dirt not too far from pad.
    2005-08-05Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG75-M- It was great flight the ejection charge fired right at apogee and then started to drift and landed...
    2005-08-06Mark Lockwood's Public Missiles PhobosI405-L- Predicted alt was 6500ft. Only broke 2 fins and a motor nozzle when it fell from that height.
    2005-08-06Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH128-M- Yet another great flight for my Phobos. Expect for when I recovered my Phobos it was all burnt on...
    2005-08-13Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG61-S- Boost was very similar to G64W (29/40-120) flights. Short delay was VERY short--much closer to 3...
    2005-08-28Mark Lockwood's Public Missiles PhobosJ528-L- Rocksim said 7800 ft and Mach 1.2 and rocket was recovered without a scratch.
    2005-08-28Mark Lockwood's Public Missiles PhobosJ528-L- Rocksim said 7800 ft and 1.25 Mach. Used 20 ft caution tape for streamer recovery. Landed...
    2005-09-25Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH97-M- Perfect boost off the pad. Got to Apogee and started arching over and started to come back down...
    2005-09-25Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- Great flight. The ejction was a little late but the Flight was still great.
    2005-12-03Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH128-M- Went up perfect, straight, and deployed the chute a little late. We tracked it all the way down...
    2006-03-18Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosH144-13- Fantastic rocket-motor combination! Lots of altitude but I had it angled well off the pad so it...
    2006-04-15Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosI124-125401 feet Mounted an altimeter and put her into orbit. With only motor ejection, it took a looooooooong time...
    2006-09-24Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH148-10- Perfect first flight for my new Phobos.
    2007-03-17Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosG64-7- The Phobos boosted slightly into the wind & recovered quickly with minimal drift landing about...
    2007-06-16Lance Alligood's Public Missiles PhobosH210-M- Great boost off the pad but didn't weathercock as much as I thought it would. That meant a...
    2007-08-04Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG64-6- Perfect flight
    2008-05-10Gary Tortora's Public Missiles PhobosG61-10- Great flight
    2008-05-10Gary Tortora's Public Missiles PhobosG67-10- Another Great flight
    2009-09-18Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG77-7-
    2009-10-10Matt Gillard's Public Missiles PhobosH123-M- Great flight, used a 30 inch chute which gave me a long walk.
    2010-03-21Malcolm Smith's Public Missiles PhobosG185-9- Another fast flight with neck snapping boost. Ejection at apogee with a good, short walk,...
    2010-05-15Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosG75M-7-
    2010-08-06Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH150- Great flight.
    2010-08-08Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH170M-
    2010-08-08Aaron Stanley's Public Missiles PhobosH150-
    2011-11-24Alex L.'s HoboG80 Skidmark - One sweet motor. The CTI G80 skid was a good choice. A large roar and a shower of sparks. The...
    2011-11-29Alex L.'s HoboF40W- Took off slowly. Peaked over at apogee, the parachute did not deploy and the rocket lawn darted....

    Comments:

    K.B. (June 1, 2000)

    This was my first high power rocket and I thought it was great. The parts fit together easily and the instructions were easy to follow. I have since flown it many times. The motors I have used are G40-4, G80-7, H70-10 (for level one cert.), several H180-10, and one super long burn H45 (38mm). This rocket is nearly indestructible because of the Quantum tubes and G-10 fins. It has landed on concrete with just minor scratches. In addition, it had a G80 CATO at lift off and I just had to replace the 38/29 motor adapter. There are a few things I wish I would have done during the building of this rocket: extended motor mount, Kevlar recovery straps, an additional bulkhead on the piston (so its not as likely to zipper), and the Aeropack motor retainer. With those few mods I believe that this rocket would last forever barring some error in deployment. The review was very accurate.

    R.D. (October 1, 2000)

    Great first HPR. Easy to assemble. Be sure if you order the 38mm upgrade (comes 29mm standard) That the fins sent are for the 38mm and not the 29mm.

    L.A. (October 31, 2003)

    PML Phobos is an EXCELLENT first HPR although I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a Level 1 certification flight. Design is comfortably over-stable but the smallish diameter allows for a LOT of altitude when used with a Pro38 H153 (be prepared for long recovery walks with one too). The Quantum Tubing is a cinch to finish--no spirals--& is very tolerant of early/late ejections, meaning little chance of zippering. I would recommend a larger chute than the 30 incher that comes with the kit if you are launching anywhere but a soft, grassy location...it comes down quick. Also with the 38mm MMT, only choices for motor retention on the Phobos are masking tape (cheap & sometimes unreliable) or a Slimline/Aero Pack retainer (expensive & overkill) because of the narrow centering rings.

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