bannerbanner
 LOC/Precision - TriStar      Madcow Arcas      Bruiser      Scale Rockets
Reviews >>

Estes - Renegade (2109) [2003-]

Manufacturer:Estes
Construction Rating:
Flight Rating:
Overall Rating:

Contributed by

Estes Renegade

Brief:
The Estes Renegade kit is a very sharp looking 2-stage kit that looks great in any fleet. It looks good on the shelf and it looks good in flight and staging. It flies on 18mm motors and used tumble recovery for the booster and a parachute for the sustainer.

Construction:

The Estes Renegade kit contains the following parts:

  • 1 - BT60 x 18" Body Tube
  • 1 - BT60 x 3.25" Body Tube
  • 2 - BT50 x 5" Body Tubes
  • 3 - BT5 x .75" Body Tubes
  • 2 - 18mm Motor Mounts
  • 1 - JT60 Red Tube Coupler
  • 1 - Plastic Nose Cone (Molded with "cockpit")
  • 2 - PNC-50KA Nose Cones
  • 4 - PNC-5A Nose Cones
  • 1 - 1/8" x 2 3/8" Launch Lug
  • 1 - Clay Weight
  • 1 - 24" Rubber Shock Cord
  • 1 - Pre-Assembled 12" Plastic Parachute
  • 1 - Decal SheetEstes Renegade - Package

Instructions: As with most Estes kits, the Renegade's instructions are very easy to follow. I assembled this kit exactly according to the instructions included. The instructions are clear and the many good drawing help make it easier.

Ease of Build: The kit was very easy to build. The only part I spent extra time on was sanding the red coupler down some so that the stages would be able to separate effectively. It's also kind of a tight fit where the 2 BT50 body tubes and nose cones of the booster fit along the main BT60 body tube.

Tool and supplies: No special tools were needed to build this kit and I used Tight Bond II for the whole project.

Finishing:
PROS: This is a very cool looking rocket. It is one of the favorite of my kids when we go to launches. It is relatively easy to build. The instructions are clear and straight forward.

CONS: Quality of the decals could been much better. They are cool designs, but I would have prefered good quality waterslide decals (Like on Semroc rockets) or better quality adhesive decals (Like on Sunward rockets). Sanding required on coupler.

Estes Renegade - ConstructionEstes Renegade - ConstructionEstes Renegade - ConstructionEstes Renegade - Construction
Estes Renegade - CompleteEstes Renegade - Complete

I noticed that Estes listened to some of the suggestions and their new Renegade has a 24mm motor mount and is single stage. I actually like the two stage version. I would like to build the 24mm version someday, but would even like to see a 24mm multi-stage kit.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Flight:Estes Renegade - Launch!
I highly recommend C6-0 / C6-5 (or C6-7). I have had many great flights with that combination. The flight is much better than using B6-0's in the booster.

All of the flights I have had with my Renegade have been great. It appears from some other reviews that this is not so for everyone. I didn't do anything special, just followed the standard build instructions and have had great luck.

Recovery:
PROS: Looks very cool in flight and staging.

CONS: The booster takes somewhat of a beating when landing on concrete or pavement. Have had no issues when landing on grass or dirt.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
Even though the booster sometimes has hard landings on pavement, most tumblers would... Mine just flies so good and the kids really like how it looks and flies.

I would like to build another with a three motor cluster in the booster using the two BT50 tubes, maybe with a streamer or small shoot in one or both. Then stage off the center booster motor.

Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    1989-02-14Donald Laskey's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- booster great but the sustainer ejected on the ground.
    2004-01-11Donald Besaw's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Nice first flight, slow liftoff. Staged nicely. Booster recovered close to pad, it came straight...
    2004-01-17Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-6- Cool model received as Xmas gift from kids. Model staged at a low altitude. Might try a C booster...
    2004-02-22Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- C6-0 is much better booster for this model. Unfortunately, one of the booster fins broke upon...
    2004-03-07Donald Besaw's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Very nice flight, went up slow and straight and continued upward at sustainer ignition, Went maybe...
    2004-03-13James Reyome's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Great first flight for neat new rocket. Booster very sticky due to tight fit on sidepods, may have...
    2004-03-20Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Good flight & no damage to the booster!
    2004-04-18Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Broke another booster fin. Need to redesign the booster.
    2004-05-15Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Ejected a bit early this time. Will probably go with a longer delay from now on when using a C6...
    2004-05-16Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Model took off to the south after staging. Upper stage is lost.
    2004-07-20Jeff Hale's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Rocket went almost parallel to the ground shortly after booster stage. Will build another one -...
    2004-12-18Robert Davis's Estes Renegade3xD12-0/C6-7- Awesome lift-off on 3 Ds! This one was fun. One fin (booster) came loose in flight, and another...
    2005-05-28Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Stayed upright but still a very slow boost. Sustainer flight was good. A booster pod broke off on...
    2005-05-28Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Boosted lazily off pad, arced over and ignited sustainer horizontally at ~20ft. Deployment after...
    2005-06-18Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Slow easy lift off, stayed stable, staged perfectly at about 150 ft, sustainer flew to about 800...
    2005-06-18Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-0/A8-3- Perfect flight after fixing booster recess. No damage to booster or sustainer.
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Maiden flight with two coats of primer. Really great flight. Nice slow liftoff with low altitude...
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Another great flight. This rocket/motor combo is great for small fields. For all of the flights on...
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Another great flight. I was able to run and catch it before it touched the ground.
    2005-07-03Jim Hinton's Estes Renegade2xC6-3+C6-0/C6-7- first lauunch with C6-3's in side pods, worked very nicely. Only one chute fully deployed on...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- During the booster flight, the rocket went up at a 50-degree angle. After successful staging, the...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Again, it weathercocked or just plain leaned over, whatever you want to call it. Still a really...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Great flight. THis rocket tends to weathercock a bit. It might just need more noseweight.
    2005-08-13Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Slow lift off that turned horizontal just before staging, 2nd stage flew horizontal about 500 ft,...
    2005-09-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Again, staged a little low. Definitely going to upgrade to a 24mm motor mount.
    2005-09-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Flew/staged kinda low.
    2005-10-16Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Good flight, single stage.
    2005-10-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Cool flight. Nice and low.
    2005-10-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Again another cool low flight.
    2005-11-06Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Cool flight. A litte squirrelly on the way up and the chute took a little while to open up, but...
    2005-11-26Donald Laskey's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- booster great but the sustainer ejected on the ground.
    2005-12-31Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Great flight. Nose hit the body, slightly chipping the paint.
    2006-05-20Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-3- Good flight, still struggles off the pad, too heavy, booster broke 2 fins again, sustainer no...
    2006-06-03Todd Mullin's Estes Renegade1XD12-0+2XA10-3/B4-4- Great boost! Clustered the booster because the standard configuration has always been sluggish of...
    2006-06-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeD12-0/B6-4- Booster broke a fin on landing b/c of gained altitude with D12. Sustainer section did not eject...
    2006-07-09Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Flown single stage for small field.
    2006-07-13Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Perfect liftoff straight up, good staging, beautiful deployment. More proof that reducing the...
    2006-10-02Ed Scientist's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-3- Well it was ugly. Great boost with seperation at about 75 feet. The sustainer failed to ignite...
    2006-10-06Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeF40-M- Yee-ha! My second Renegade mod, this time with a single stage 29mm motor mount! Beefed up with...
    2006-12-30Gerry Williams's Estes RenegadeC6-5- MAIDEN FLIGHT: Good flight, excellent recovery. Do it again! :-J
    2006-12-30Gerry Williams's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- SECOND FLIGHT: With booster stage (thought staging might fail as coupling seemed tight), launched...
    2007-01-14Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeD12-0/2XA10-3T/B4-4-
    2007-01-27Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeF52-4- Motor delay burn by... Ejected violently and early
    2007-02-24Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeD12-0+2XA10-3/A8-3-
    2007-03-10Dragan Mejic's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7-
    2007-03-25James Powers's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Boost stage went well. After separation, booster lawn darted and impaled itself 1 inch in ground,...
    2007-03-25James Powers's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Perfect first flight. Nice slow lift-off, recovery ~30ft from launch pad.
    2007-08-12Mark Van+Luvender's Estes Renegade2xA8-3+C6-0/C6-5- Modified with 18mm mounts in the booster side pods. All three boosters lit on the ground, great...
    2007-08-19Scott Turnbull's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Good staging and booster sep. Recovered off-field.
    2007-11-11Jesse Heady's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Nice slow take off, went up about 100ft then straight back down into the ground. At impact the...
    2008-02-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeD12-0/B6-6- Good flight. I cut the side pods and added two small parachutes to the booster to slow its...
    2008-05-24Andy Turits's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Low motors, first flight. Slow take off. Sustainer fired perfectly at no more than 20 ft to an...
    2008-09-20Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-0/A8-5- Good set of motors for small field. Lost both booster fin tip pods, but easily repaired.
    2009-03-28 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- This rocket flew excellent on the C6-0/C6-7 combo. Much better than using the B6-0's in the...
    2009-07-25Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-3- Actually the C6-3 on the sustainer worked out very well on this flight. Beautiful!
    2009-07-25Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-3- Again a great flight on same combo. Used this flight for NARTREK Bronze Two-stage requirement.
    2009-07-25 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Awesomely high flight. Staged perfect, but wind picked up and had to chase the sustainer about...
    2009-08-22 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Was a great flight. Booster kit kinda hard on the asphalt. Had to touch up paint later.
    2009-10-10Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B4-4- Short boost on a B6-0, but that limited the damage to the booster to a broken fin--all the pods...
    2010-12-16 Brian Hoover's Estes RenegadeC11-3- Moded for rear ejection, flown w/out paint as a test for the mod. Flight was good and stable,...

    Comments:

    J.L. (August 17, 2004)

    The instructions for gluing the motor mount into the top stage are poor. They don't leave enough room behind the motor mount for the first stage coupler. I had to trim the coupler so it only extends 3/16" into the top stage, resulting in less-than-ideal stability in the joint. The motor mount must be moved forward from the recommended glue points. Preassemble... The booster not only is too heavy, it's somewhat stable, with my first flight lawn-darting after partial engine ejection. Fortunately the ground was very soft, and no parts broke. One of the COSROCS veterans recommended adding a streamer to the booster, which will be done for the second launch. There's plenty of room for it. Launched in 10mph wind, the rocket weathercocked severely, which was exacerbated by the B6-0 booster. The top stage engine was a little late firing, so it flew almost horizontally (apogee at around 300 ft), but ejection occurred in the air because the top stage is fairly light. This is a nasty looking rocket and drew lots of attention on the pad. Recommend flying with a C booster and launching on a calm day straight up if possible.

    D.S. (November 22, 2004)

    I read this review prior to building my Renegade. I didn't modify it at all, but too found that gluing the boosters on after painting would be a good idea. I used Elmer's on the entire rocket, which was fine. The fins are all still on and have never cracked. However, the booster section took a beating every time it came down. It is supposed to tumble, but it is too stable and on the last flight the motor mount assembly totally failed upon landing. It can be rebuilt, and I think I will build it to accept a D motor to help speed up that slow lift-off.

    K.L.M. (January 28, 2006)

    I am currently building this kit. I too was concerned about the booster stage being damaged after falling to the ground, so I decided to convert mine to a single stage, "D" powered rocket. I currently have both stages glued together with the set of 3 fins in line. I am very anxious to finish this kit and get it in the air.

    - Post a Comment -

    eBay Offers:

    Estes Flying Model Rocket RENEGADE-D. Estes 2410 Model Rocket
      >>> Product Details >>>

    $18.29
    End Date: Saturday Jun-16-2012 17:14:51 PDT
    Buy It Now for only: $18.29
    Buy It Now | Add to watch list

    ** LOT OF 3 ESTES MODEL ROCKET KITS ** CC EXPRESS- RENEGADE-D-BIG BERTHA **
      >>> Product Details >>>

    $15.50 (5 Bids)
    End Date: Sunday May-27-2012 17:10:43 PDT
    Bid now | Add to watch list

    Estes Renegade-D Flying Model Rocket Kit #2410 NIP
      >>> Product Details >>>

    $18.99
    End Date: Saturday Jun-2-2012 14:17:20 PDT
    Buy It Now for only: $18.99
    Buy It Now | Add to watch list

    BEAUTIFUL & Improved RENEGADE-'D'-Powered ESTES 2410, Sleek 26"-Tall, Flies 850'
      >>> Product Details >>>

    $28.95
    End Date: Friday Jun-15-2012 9:13:08 PDT
    Buy It Now for only: $28.95
    Buy It Now | Add to watch list

    Estes Renegade-D Model Rocket Kit
      >>> Product Details >>>

    $20.75
    End Date: Wednesday Jun-20-2012 13:30:09 PDT
    Buy It Now for only: $20.75
    Buy It Now | Add to watch list

    What You Can Do

    - Link to this Page -