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Estes - Renegade (2109) [2003-]

Manufacturer:Estes

Contributed by Robert Davis

Rating
(Contributed - by Robert Davis - 12/07/04)

Brief:
The Renegade is a cool staged rocket featuring a tumble recovery for the booster and a parachute recovery for the 2nd stage. It also flies great as a single stage rocket.

Construction:
The kit came with a whole lot of parts, including two lengths of BT-60 body tubes (one of them was much shorter, of course, for the booster section), a tube coupler, a couple different types of nose cones, two BT-20 engine mount tubes, two short BT-5 tubes and two BT-50 tubes for the boosters, 8 fins, a decal sheet, 4 centering rings, elastic shock cord, a 12" parachute, as well as some other little couplers and adapters.

The instructions were very easy to follow and all I used was Elmer's white glue. This actually was my first rocket ever. My wife gave it to me as a birthday gift and I was thrilled with its looks. Building the model went well but there was one thing that looking back, I would have changed: the "boosters." The "boosters" that attach to the booster section fit between fins on either side and are easy to attach, but after the glue dried I tried to fit the two stages together and found it to be a tight fit since those pesky "boosters" were nearly touching the upper stage. This really became a factor once a couple layers of primer and paint were applied. Aside from the "boosters" though, everything else was fine with kit assembly and all parts fit perfectly.

Finishing:
I primed the entire rocket with grey primer, then painted the whole thing with a blue-black pearl paint. After the paint was dry I put on the decals, then sprayed it all down with Krylon clear coat. Decals went on fine, but I had to do a little trimming on the fin decals. Again, the painting is where the "boosters" were a problem. It was difficult getting paint down into the spaces between the "boosters" and the fins/body tube. Anyway, it worked out. Painting the "boosters" prior to attaching them to the lower stage would take care of that headache.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

LaunchFlight:
Motor retention is friction fit with masking tape. To prep it, you use Scotch tape and tape the booster motor onto the bottom of the upper stage motor. Then you fit it into the upper stage. Once that is securely in place, you slide the lower section into the upper part (the booster section has a motor block in the lower engine tube to prevent the motor from falling out the back). I first flew this baby on a C6-0 in the booster and a C6-7 in the upper body. I wanted to see it fly, and that's what it did. Rather slow lift-off due to the weight and a great first flight to an unknown altitude.

Next flight was on the same configuration and it again flew perfectly. Since those first few flights I have always used a C6-0 in the booster section but have tried B6-4s and C6-5s in the upper section as well. I have flown it many time as a single stage on C6-7s and C6-5s. I even tried it once on an A8-3, but that was a nail-biter and the chute barely deployed with 20 feet to spare. Luckily I flew it over a grassy baseball field and it suffered no damage.

This is a picture of the Renegade launching after being modified. The booster is being powered by 3 Estes D12 motors, and the sustainer flies on a C6. Flight was spectacular to well over 1200'. Booster suffered damage to one fin during launch, but it is repairable and will fly again

Recovery:
The shock cord attaches to the inside wall of the body tube with regular white glue. I have never had it pull away or fail in any way and this rocket has flown over a dozen times. The upper stage recovers via a small 12" parachute. It comes down faster than I would like, but I have not lost any fins yet and we fly in the desert in southern New Mexico where the dirt is rather unforgiving.

The booster uses a tumble recovery but it is so stable that it comes down rather straight and fast, causing me to wince every time. The booster section began showing serious signs of wear after about the 4th flight, when the BT-50 tubes began crumpling slightly. I still flew it and it did fine. Finally, however, the shock from the 8th tumble recovery caused the motor mount centering rings to fail and break away. The booster section itself was fine, except the BT-50s were also destroyed. Fins were all still good and the upper stage was still intact.

Flight Rating: 3 out of 5

Summary:
I like this rocket and it looks cool when fully assembled for staged flight. It is nice to be able to fly it as a single stage in case you are out of booster motors (or money). It flies great either staged or single and all flights are fairly straight. The abuse that the booster takes is a drag. Some form of a streamer recovery would be great if you could swing that one.

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    1989-02-14Donald Laskey's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- booster great but the sustainer ejected on the ground.
    2004-01-11Donald Besaw's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Nice first flight, slow liftoff. Staged nicely. Booster recovered close to pad, it came straight...
    2004-01-17Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-6- Cool model received as Xmas gift from kids. Model staged at a low altitude. Might try a C booster...
    2004-02-22Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- C6-0 is much better booster for this model. Unfortunately, one of the booster fins broke upon...
    2004-03-07Donald Besaw's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Very nice flight, went up slow and straight and continued upward at sustainer ignition, Went maybe...
    2004-03-13James Reyome's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Great first flight for neat new rocket. Booster very sticky due to tight fit on sidepods, may have...
    2004-03-20Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Good flight & no damage to the booster!
    2004-04-18Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Broke another booster fin. Need to redesign the booster.
    2004-05-15Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Ejected a bit early this time. Will probably go with a longer delay from now on when using a C6...
    2004-05-16Bob Bernatchez's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- Model took off to the south after staging. Upper stage is lost.
    2004-07-20Jeff Hale's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Rocket went almost parallel to the ground shortly after booster stage. Will build another one -...
    2004-12-18Robert Davis's Estes Renegade3xD12-0/C6-7- Awesome lift-off on 3 Ds! This one was fun. One fin (booster) came loose in flight, and another...
    2005-05-28Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-4- Stayed upright but still a very slow boost. Sustainer flight was good. A booster pod broke off on...
    2005-05-28Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Boosted lazily off pad, arced over and ignited sustainer horizontally at ~20ft. Deployment after...
    2005-06-18Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Slow easy lift off, stayed stable, staged perfectly at about 150 ft, sustainer flew to about 800...
    2005-06-18Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-0/A8-3- Perfect flight after fixing booster recess. No damage to booster or sustainer.
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Maiden flight with two coats of primer. Really great flight. Nice slow liftoff with low altitude...
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Another great flight. This rocket/motor combo is great for small fields. For all of the flights on...
    2005-06-25Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB4-4- Another great flight. I was able to run and catch it before it touched the ground.
    2005-07-03Jim Hinton's Estes Renegade2xC6-3+C6-0/C6-7- first lauunch with C6-3's in side pods, worked very nicely. Only one chute fully deployed on...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- During the booster flight, the rocket went up at a 50-degree angle. After successful staging, the...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Again, it weathercocked or just plain leaned over, whatever you want to call it. Still a really...
    2005-07-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Great flight. THis rocket tends to weathercock a bit. It might just need more noseweight.
    2005-08-13Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Slow lift off that turned horizontal just before staging, 2nd stage flew horizontal about 500 ft,...
    2005-09-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Again, staged a little low. Definitely going to upgrade to a 24mm motor mount.
    2005-09-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-5- Flew/staged kinda low.
    2005-10-16Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Good flight, single stage.
    2005-10-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Cool flight. Nice and low.
    2005-10-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Again another cool low flight.
    2005-11-06Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Cool flight. A litte squirrelly on the way up and the chute took a little while to open up, but...
    2005-11-26Donald Laskey's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- booster great but the sustainer ejected on the ground.
    2005-12-31Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Great flight. Nose hit the body, slightly chipping the paint.
    2006-05-20Mike Kiss's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-3- Good flight, still struggles off the pad, too heavy, booster broke 2 fins again, sustainer no...
    2006-06-03Todd Mullin's Estes Renegade1XD12-0+2XA10-3/B4-4- Great boost! Clustered the booster because the standard configuration has always been sluggish of...
    2006-06-24Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeD12-0/B6-4- Booster broke a fin on landing b/c of gained altitude with D12. Sustainer section did not eject...
    2006-07-09Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Flown single stage for small field.
    2006-07-13Jeff Lane's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Perfect liftoff straight up, good staging, beautiful deployment. More proof that reducing the...
    2006-10-02Ed Scientist's Estes RenegadeC6-0/A8-3- Well it was ugly. Great boost with seperation at about 75 feet. The sustainer failed to ignite...
    2006-10-06Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeF40-M- Yee-ha! My second Renegade mod, this time with a single stage 29mm motor mount! Beefed up with...
    2006-12-30Gerry Williams's Estes RenegadeC6-5- MAIDEN FLIGHT: Good flight, excellent recovery. Do it again! :-J
    2006-12-30Gerry Williams's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- SECOND FLIGHT: With booster stage (thought staging might fail as coupling seemed tight), launched...
    2007-01-14Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeD12-0/2XA10-3T/B4-4-
    2007-01-27Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeF52-4- Motor delay burn by... Ejected violently and early
    2007-02-24Todd Mullin's Estes RenegadeD12-0+2XA10-3/A8-3-
    2007-03-10Dragan Mejic's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7-
    2007-03-25James Powers's Estes RenegadeC6-0/B6-6- Boost stage went well. After separation, booster lawn darted and impaled itself 1 inch in ground,...
    2007-03-25James Powers's Estes RenegadeB6-4- Perfect first flight. Nice slow lift-off, recovery ~30ft from launch pad.
    2007-08-12Mark Van+Luvender's Estes Renegade2xA8-3+C6-0/C6-5- Modified with 18mm mounts in the booster side pods. All three boosters lit on the ground, great...
    2007-08-19Scott Turnbull's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Good staging and booster sep. Recovered off-field.
    2007-11-11Jesse Heady's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Nice slow take off, went up about 100ft then straight back down into the ground. At impact the...
    2008-02-23Reed Johansson's Estes RenegadeD12-0/B6-6- Good flight. I cut the side pods and added two small parachutes to the booster to slow its...
    2008-05-24Andy Turits's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B6-4- Low motors, first flight. Slow take off. Sustainer fired perfectly at no more than 20 ft to an...
    2008-09-20Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-0/A8-5- Good set of motors for small field. Lost both booster fin tip pods, but easily repaired.
    2009-03-28 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-7- This rocket flew excellent on the C6-0/C6-7 combo. Much better than using the B6-0's in the...
    2009-07-25Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-3- Actually the C6-3 on the sustainer worked out very well on this flight. Beautiful!
    2009-07-25Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-3- Again a great flight on same combo. Used this flight for NARTREK Bronze Two-stage requirement.
    2009-07-25 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Awesomely high flight. Staged perfect, but wind picked up and had to chase the sustainer about...
    2009-08-22 Duane Boldt's Estes RenegadeC6-0/C6-5- Was a great flight. Booster kit kinda hard on the asphalt. Had to touch up paint later.
    2009-10-10Edward Chess's Estes RenegadeB6-0/B4-4- Short boost on a B6-0, but that limited the damage to the booster to a broken fin--all the pods...
    2010-12-16 Brian Hoover's Estes RenegadeC11-3- Moded for rear ejection, flown w/out paint as a test for the mod. Flight was good and stable,...

    Comments:

    J.L. (August 17, 2004)

    The instructions for gluing the motor mount into the top stage are poor. They don't leave enough room behind the motor mount for the first stage coupler. I had to trim the coupler so it only extends 3/16" into the top stage, resulting in less-than-ideal stability in the joint. The motor mount must be moved forward from the recommended glue points. Preassemble... The booster not only is too heavy, it's somewhat stable, with my first flight lawn-darting after partial engine ejection. Fortunately the ground was very soft, and no parts broke. One of the COSROCS veterans recommended adding a streamer to the booster, which will be done for the second launch. There's plenty of room for it. Launched in 10mph wind, the rocket weathercocked severely, which was exacerbated by the B6-0 booster. The top stage engine was a little late firing, so it flew almost horizontally (apogee at around 300 ft), but ejection occurred in the air because the top stage is fairly light. This is a nasty looking rocket and drew lots of attention on the pad. Recommend flying with a C booster and launching on a calm day straight up if possible.

    D.S. (November 22, 2004)

    I read this review prior to building my Renegade. I didn't modify it at all, but too found that gluing the boosters on after painting would be a good idea. I used Elmer's on the entire rocket, which was fine. The fins are all still on and have never cracked. However, the booster section took a beating every time it came down. It is supposed to tumble, but it is too stable and on the last flight the motor mount assembly totally failed upon landing. It can be rebuilt, and I think I will build it to accept a D motor to help speed up that slow lift-off.

    K.L.M. (January 28, 2006)

    I am currently building this kit. I too was concerned about the booster stage being damaged after falling to the ground, so I decided to convert mine to a single stage, "D" powered rocket. I currently have both stages glued together with the set of 3 fins in line. I am very anxious to finish this kit and get it in the air.

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