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Estes - Mini Marz Lander (1826) [1998-2002]

Manufacturer:Estes

Contributed by Robert Geer

(Contributed - by Robert Geer)

Brief:
A Modified Mini Marz Lander with a lengthened motor tube to accept Apogee's C6, 13mm x 83mm, motor.

All ComponentsModifications:
Parts needed are (1) 13mm Airframe Tube 3.25", (1) 13mm x 18mm x 0.25" centering ring, (1) 13mm x 0.25" Engine block.

The first thing I did was to enlarge the holes on either end of the lower section using 220 grit sandpaper rolled inside out on my hobby knife. This also removed the part of the cardboard tube that was glued in. I enlarged the hole till the new motor tube slid in with only a little resistance.

Next I glued the motor block in, I left about 1mm sticking out of the top of the tube because I wanted a little wiggle room in case one of the motors was a little long. After a light sanding on the bottom of the tube, I put a small bead of carpenter's glue around the tube about 1/16" from the end and slid the centering ring on about 1mm past the end. After the glue dried, I put a small fillet on the bottom of the centering ring.

New Tube installedParachute installed

After the glue dries slip the tube in from the bottom of the rocket and you're ready to get some serious altitude!

It's RTF, you know!

Flight:
Estes recommends the A10-3T. The C6-7 is 4 times the motor! The hardest thing is getting the chute in, I wrap the nose cone end of the shock cord with Estes wadding, and use a long and skinny roll on the chute. Fold another square of wadding over the end of the motor tube slip the cone half way on and them gently stuff the chute around the tube in the cone. I inserted the incredibly long motor and installed the lock ring. I checked the copperhead igniter for shorts (I always find at least one) slid it in as far as it would go, folded it over and taped it to the lock ring. I made sure to tell the LCO that this is a heads up flight (that got a laugh). When the LCO pushed the button I couldn't believe how loud the motor is! The crowd was impressed too! Lots of people saying wow! It climbed straight up over 1000 feet, (RockSim says 1280) the chute popped a little after apogee, and came down 10 yards east of the pad. Inspection showed some discoloration on the motor tube from the heat and the ink on the motor label transferred to the inside of the tube! Otherwise no damage.

Summary:
Major Pros: Smoke! Noise! Altitude! Plus the look on everyone's face when it takes off! The only Con is that each flight costs 7 bucks! RTF can be fun!

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    2000-03-05Robert Geer's Estes Mini Marz LanderC6-7- Fast Straight Boost, loud too! Chute opened a little after apogee, landed about 40 feet from th e...
    2000-03-25Robert Geer's Estes Mini Marz LanderC6-7- Another great flight, I get a real kick out of the crowds reaction. Worth the $7!
    2000-04-02Robert Geer's Estes Mini Marz LanderC6-7- Good boost, late ejection with the chute in a wad, no damage. I'll use C6-5 next time.
    2000-04-15Ben Snider's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- rocket went up pretty strait to about 120 Ft. tes the ejection was 1-2 seconds past apogee and...
    2000-07-19Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great little flier for the money. It barely makes it over the tree in the front yard. This kit is...
    2000-09-02Robert Geer's Estes Mini Marz LanderC6-7- Another great flight, landed real close to the pad due to the fact that the chute finally opened...
    2000-11-04Dick Stafford's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- The Lander is the 2nd stage/nosecone for a 29mm rocket. On this flight, I tried to stage a F20 to...
    2000-12-30Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Another good flight, maybe 80 feet high, great fun
    2000-12-31Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz Lander1/4A3-2- One of the kids in the club wanted to fly it, I had no idea he would put this little motor in it....
    2001-01-07Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Finally, a nice day here, and a nice boost here in the rocket barn back yard. The dogs love to...
    2001-02-10Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Crashed nose down into concrete from 150 feet. Total loss.
    2001-03-10Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Good flight just before I leave for a new high power field. It will be a good day.
    2001-03-24Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Exploded on the pad.
    2001-03-30Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great boost, went straight up. How long will the shock cord last?
    2001-04-18Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great little flight, it stopped dead in the air with the wind. Good deploy, short walk, no damage.
    2001-04-24Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Finally a good flight for a change. It was nice to do without a CATO or crash. These two events...
    2001-05-05Casey Smith's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great boost up into the wind, the chute actually deployed, melted part of the chute, will put a...
    2001-06-09Dick Stafford's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- OK flight, burned thru the shroud lines, soft landing on soft grass
    2001-11-03Grant Gibson's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Brilliant maiden flight, went up to about 300ft and the parachute ejected and opened perfectly....
    2001-12-15Grant Gibson's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Again a superb flight, with the 'chute making a perefect recovery.
    2002-01-18Grant Gibson's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Due to the high winds, the rocket took off and then started to go horizontal about 100 ft up then...
    2002-02-09Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Nice flight. Landed, bounced, and landed back upright. No damage.
    2002-05-29EMRR's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Much better this time, but still the parachute did not come out of the nose cone.
    2002-06-03Bill Eichelberger's Estes Mini Marz Lander1/2A3-2- Not a bad little rocket, but things get pretty cramped in the nose cone when the chute and wadding...
    2002-06-03Bill Eichelberger's Estes Mini Marz Lander1/2A3-2- Not a bad little rocket, but it gets mighty cramped in that nose when you pack it.
    2002-06-06EMRR's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Went great, nice and straight up. Turned over, eject popped, nose cone stayed on, thump! Damaged...
    2002-07-14Bill Eichelberger's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Another kid favorite. Recovered closest to the pad.
    2002-07-18Bill Eichelberger's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Shock cord is almost burned through. I'll replace it with a length of Kevlar. Great flight. One of...
    2002-09-01Bill Eichelberger's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3-
    2002-10-02John Rowan-Stern's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- Lawn dart. Need I say more? 4 seconds for ejection seems long. Will try again with rod straight up.
    2002-10-09John Rowan-Stern's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-4- I'll say jection happened late...like when it was stuck upside down in the dirt. This rocket will...
    2002-10-31Rod Thrasher's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- And another great flight.
    2003-01-05Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Nice flight. Chute got fused together at ejection, came in fast but no damage.
    2003-02-01Michael Simpson's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3-
    2003-04-12Jason Vennard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Adequate at best on the boost, ok flight. Chute didn't open but landed without damage. 12 plastic...
    2003-04-26Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Model went unstable as it cleared the rod.
    2003-05-01Rod Thrasher's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great flight.
    2003-05-27Jason Vennard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Surprised by a near perfect flight, low altitude but everything was right on time, fairly straight...
    2003-09-01Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Nice flight. I wrapped the chute in wadding which seemed to work well, I didn't notice any...
    2003-09-07Rod Thrasher's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- 'chute did not open.
    2003-11-15Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Broke the shock cord, but no damage.
    2003-12-13Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Parachute never deployed. Model recovered OK.
    2004-02-14Donald Besaw's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Wind test, nice flight. A little late on the ejection due to launch rod angle but otherwise OK. No...
    2004-02-21Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Changed parachute attachment point so that parachute would deploy. Looks like it worked.
    2004-02-26Rod Thrasher's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- 'chute did not open. It keeps getting stuck in the nose.
    2004-03-20Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Good flight.
    2004-05-11Rod Thrasher's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great flight.
    2005-01-15Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Chute didn't deploy, but recovered without damage.
    2005-04-16Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-2- Great flight. Last of the A3-2T's, though.
    2006-05-26Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA3-4- straight up, four second delay too long, landed hard due to parachute not deploying.
    2006-06-03Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- straight up and down, poor packing of parachute caused the parachute to fry, shock cord badly...
    2006-06-08Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- parachute failed to deploy. hard landing, no damage
    2006-07-01Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- ouch! hard landing, no damage
    2006-07-08Dick Stafford's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Nice flight.
    2007-04-01Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- practically hit the ground before parachute deployed - no damage
    2007-04-02Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderB6-0/1/2A3-4- chad staged, first attempt, excellent flight, very stable, wrong choice of sustainer, thoughti had...
    2007-04-02Matt Gillard's Estes Mini Marz LanderC6-0/A3-4- Extra mass of a C motor lowered CG to low, rocket went unstable finding the ground quickly, quite...
    2007-06-09Geoffrey Kerbel's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3150 feet WOW! Straight up and chute came out! Came down about 50' from pad. Great flight for once.
    2007-07-22Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Didn't get the chute deployed. No damage to vehicle.
    2007-11-18Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Great flight.
    2009-04-19Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Good flight.
    2010-04-17Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3- Good flight
    2011-02-20Bob Bernatchez's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3T- Wish they made a 2 second delay
    2011-08-07Dick Stafford's Estes Mini Marz LanderA10-3-

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