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Estes - Silver Comet (2141) [1997-2000]

Manufacturer:Estes

Contributed by Gary Sinclair

(Contributed - by Gary Sinclair)

Rocket PicBrief:
Fiberglassed body and fins. 3mm Kevlar® shockcord. LOC precision 16" parachute. Centering rings were glued using 5 minute epoxy. All joints were glued using epoxy.

Modifications:
The Silver Comet is a great looking kit which I felt deserved to be built to last and fly on E and F motors. To this end I decided to re-enforce the body and fins (balsa) with fiberglass using West Systems Epoxy and my trusty food saver to vacuum bag them both. Prior to laying up the fiberglass I had a some wooden mandrels turned to keep the thin Estes body tube from being crushed by the atmospheric pressure from the vacuum bagging process. The mandrels were turned from cedar but any wood will do since all you want is to provide a solid tube 'within a tube' to support your airframe during the fiberglassing and vacuum bagging process. I used a 4oz fiberglass cloth since it is light yet strong in a single covering. The resulting tube was still flexible but strong.

The fins that come with the kit are made from balsa so it was obvious these would have to be re-enforced. Again a single layer of fiberglass and vacuum bagging in a single process (i.e. each side of the fins had a single layer of fiberglass applied in the same session) yielded strong but pliant fins with only a small weight penalty (epoxy resin can really add weight so for something like this the vacuum bagging is a must).

I also noticed the usual elastic Estes shock cord provided. I don't like elastic as it eventually breaks. Instead I used 10' of 3mm tubular Kevlar® (Pratt Hobbies can sell you this) which I connected to the motor mount through the forward centering ring. The Kevlar® is glued down onto the motor mount and a knot tied to keep it from slipping back through the centering ring.

The 24mm motor mount is built with the supplied cardboard centering rings. I used 5 minute epoxy to provide a solid bond and give some stiffness to the cardboard. The result was a stiff motor mount assembly which was not overly heavy.

Finally, I replaced the usual Estes plastic parachute with a nice LOC Precision 16" pink nylon chute.

Construction:
Construction/Finishing PROS: Packaging is always good with Estes kits. The instructions are always clear with lots of diagrams. All the parts arrived undamaged including the very nice Silver Comet decals. Since this was a kit bash I can't really say more about a 'stock' build. The CONs': Well the modifications I have made are really in response to the CONS.

LaunchFlight:
A D12 is the recommended motor for this kit. However, due to my modifications it was clear that a D12 would not provide enough thrust to get this off the ground safely. Besides I wanted this to roar off the pad on an E or F. So, after much simulation with ROCKSIM I decided on a maiden flight on an Aerotech SU - E30-7. The casing had to be sanded down a bit to fit inside the Estes 24mm motor tube. After a minute of sanding the motor fit nice and snug with the D-clip fitting over the end perfectly. I have only flown this once but the E30-7 pushed this 10oz rocket straight up to 1000 feet in a 15mph wind. Deployment was visibly at apogee with the parachute opening immediately. A nice soft landing was made about 1/4" mile down range. The rocket was recovered without a scratch to the paint work. The next flight will probably be on an F24-7.

Summary:
PRO: I have built my share of Estes kits and this and the V2 are my favorite. I like the 2 1/5" body tube and finishing you can give to this size of Rocket. CON: Well, Estes really must bite the bullet and replace the plastic parachutes in this size of kit and then consider if elastic must go as well.

Other:
Always overbuild your rockets. The added weight can usually be compensated for by using a larger motor and in the end you will get a rocket you can fly again and again (though it will cost you more as well in propellant).

    Flight Log

    DateRocket NameMotor(s)AltitudeNotes
    1997-08-08Ron Watkins's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Good flight-predicted altitude-580 ft. -considerable drift on recovery.
    1999-04-24David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    1999-06-26David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    1999-08-28David Fergus's Estes Silver CometC5-3- tried smaller engine with this 6. 5oz rocket. lifted very slow, not real stable, pitched into...
    1999-12-27Mike McPharlin's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Another very nice flight. This time the rocket did a slow spin as if it had been fired out of a...
    2000-01-01MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Nice flight.
    2000-01-07MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Nice flight. High with good landing.
    2000-01-08MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Nice flight. Early parachute and ripped shroud lines, but no damage.
    2000-01-08MikeyR's Estes Silver CometE18-4- 18 parachute Very high boost. Nice recovery.
    2000-01-22Mike McPharlin's Estes Silver CometD12-5- I told my told he was using too much wadding, but he knew better. The rocket went up beautifully....
    2000-02-05Mark VanArsdall's Estes Silver CometD12-5- The wind picked up a little and blew it on top of a batting cage inside a locked chain linked...
    2000-03-18MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Nice flight. Good deployment and recovery.
    2000-04-21MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Nice, nominal flight.
    2000-04-22David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2000-05-07MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Carol pushed the button. Nice flight, like normal. Landed very close.
    2000-05-21David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2000-06-03MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- 18 parachute Again a nice flight. Angle closer to correct.
    2000-07-22David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3- lost a drag race with another Silver Comet on a D12-7, because it ejected very late closer to the...
    2000-09-10Brian Kain's Estes Silver CometG64-10- Actually,I cheated. It is modified to a V-2 with LOC tubing, and 1/8 5 ply aircraft birch fins....
    2000-10-19Donald Besaw's Estes Silver CometD12-5600 feet Excellent flight up to about 600 feet. Moderate drift on recovery, recovered intact.
    2000-11-11Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Second time on the -3; I like five seconds a bit better.
    2000-11-11Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Perfect.
    2000-12-27Mike McPharlin's Estes Silver CometD12-5- The rocket is pretty big and easy to see during the whole flight. This flight was flawless.
    2001-02-03Cliff Oliver's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Cool flight to about 700 ft
    2001-02-21MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2001-02-24Jim Zamecnik's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Chittenden Reservoir. Straight boost to about 300', good recovery on 18'' chute.
    2001-03-10Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Drifted into trees - recovered with some minor damage.
    2001-05-05Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3300 feet Strong wind, Perfect flight, Good Chut, Some burn damage to chute.
    2001-05-06Gary Sinclair's Estes Silver CometE30-71000 feet Very fast flight straight up. Ejection at 1000 feet was visibly at apogee.
    2001-05-06Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Strong Wind, Pperfect Flight, Good Chute, more slight burning to the chute.
    2001-05-12Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Good flight.
    2001-05-12Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Very nice flight.
    2001-05-12Donald Besaw's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Another good flight. Long walk on recovery.
    2001-06-03Gary Sinclair's Estes Silver CometE30-7- Nice flight with ejection at apogee. The E30 is the perfect motor for this modified Silver Comet.
    2001-06-16Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-5- Perfect Flight, good chute, landed 25' from pad, No damage.
    2001-06-23David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2001-06-24Tony Fragge's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Flew straight as an arrow.
    2001-07-01Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Good motor/rocket combo.
    2001-07-14Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Fine performer. Good motor/rocket combo.
    2001-07-14Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-5- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2001-07-23Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2001-07-29Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Nominal, second of two today.
    2001-08-11Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-5- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2001-08-25David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2001-08-25Donald Besaw's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Nice high flight. Good recovery.
    2001-09-02Gary Sinclair's Estes Silver CometE30-7- Another perfect flight of this rocket. Deployment was visibly at apogee. Recovery was on a small...
    2001-09-06Andy Sola's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Boost was straight and slow. Perfect flight. The crowd loves this rocket.
    2001-09-08Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-5- Another excellent flight.
    2001-09-22Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Nominal.
    2001-09-22Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Nice.
    2001-09-29Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Nominal.
    2001-09-30Joe Balsamo's Estes Silver CometD12-3- First flight of this recycled (given to me damaged) Silver Comet. Rocket flew and recovered nicely.
    2001-10-13Joe Balsamo's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Good flight. Silver Comet keeps on ticking.
    2001-10-13Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2001-10-28Joe Balsamo's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Great flight, fin slightly damaged on landing, fixed with CA glue.
    2001-11-03Tony Fragge's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Good flight. Landed softly in the mud.
    2001-11-10Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2001-11-11Joe Balsamo's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Silver Comet just keeps on going...Great little rocket. I've got to try it on an E9.
    2001-11-18Al McCue's Estes Silver CometE9-7- The E9 is a much nicer engine than the D12. Slow majestic takeoff with enough total Newtons to get...
    2001-12-09Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2002-03-03Gary Sinclair's Estes Silver CometE30-7- This is just the perfect motor for this rocket. straight up with a perfect apogee deployment. Next...
    2002-03-03Gary Sinclair's Estes Silver CometE15-7- Chuf then a slow burn with a very late ejection. Just not enough steam to get this rocket moving....
    2002-04-17MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Always a nice flight.
    2002-05-27Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Good boost after a misfire. Ignitor looked OK, further testing at home later shows that it is...
    2002-07-02Donald Besaw's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Nice flight. Moderate drift, no damage.
    2002-08-10Larry Zeilmann's Silver CometD12-3- Perfect flight, good chute, no damage.
    2002-09-07Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Club demo launch. OK flight.
    2002-10-01Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Proxy flown by Brandon. Good flight.
    2002-10-01Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Proxy flight by Brandon. Nominal.
    2003-01-25Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Very nice flight.
    2003-01-25Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometC11-3- Nominal.
    2003-03-22Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometF12-5- Good! Using old reloads and getting very long delays on this package. Came out OK.
    2003-05-17MikeyR's Estes Silver CometE28-4- Way up, but caught the wind. Drifted into the subdivision to the north. Managed to find in a back...
    2003-05-24MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Nice flight, as always.
    2003-05-26MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Perfect motor for the Silver Comet. Found a bunch, so I'll be launching.
    2003-06-23MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Yet again nice.
    2003-06-24MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Very nice yet again.
    2003-06-28Alex Kowaleski's Estes Silver CometE9-6- Rocket arced strongly to left, and during ejection separated. Recovered nose cone. Body fell into...
    2003-07-04MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- This flies like a machine. Yet again a good flight.
    2003-07-04MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3-
    2003-08-16MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Yet again a nice flight.
    2003-09-01MikeyR's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Perfect yet again.
    2003-10-18Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Good flight.
    2003-10-25Tim Burger's Estes Silver CometD15-4- Nominal
    2003-12-28Stephen Peart's Estes Silver CometD12-5- About a dozen flights for this bird. Weathercocked a little. Nice and high as always. Perfect...
    2004-07-24David Fergus's Estes Silver CometD12-5-
    2005-07-02Reid Smith's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Very nice, straight flight. Doesn't get to high but enough that it's exciting yet I don't have to...
    2005-07-05Reid Smith's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Nice flight up, drifted a little too much but with launch rod. Chute didn't appear to open at...
    2005-07-11Reid Smith's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Great flight as usual. Rocket began to tip upon apogee though which caused it to countinue...
    2006-07-31Geoffrey Kerbel's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Nice flight with slight weathercocking. Good delay and short walk to recover.
    2006-09-09Geoffrey Kerbel's Estes Silver CometF12-51000 feet WOW! I love those smokey blackjacks!! Sent it way up there, almost out of sight! Good chute and...
    2007-06-23Ron Wirth's Estes Silver CometD12-5- Tangled chute but no damage
    2007-11-25William Beggs's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Great flight and recovery.
    2007-11-25William Beggs's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Great flight and recovery.
    2007-11-25William Beggs's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Great flight and recovery.
    2008-07-06Dwayne Surdu-Miller's Estes Silver CometD12-3- Straight boost and coast with very slow spin. Perfect deployment. Moderate descent rate. Soft...

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