Public Missiles Thunder -N- Lightning

Public Missiles - Thunder -N- Lightning

Contributed by David Kneble

Manufacturer: Public Missiles
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(by David Kneble - 05/01/02)

On the PadBrief:
This is a high performance 38mm two stage rocket. It features PML's CPR3000 system and the inter-stage coupler unit.

Construction:
I believe that when I originally counted the components there were over 125 pieces. Basically there were two sets of G10 fins, two 38mm motor mounts, the inter-stage assembly, a tailcone, the airframe for the booster, three airframe sections for the sustainer (one slotted, one fore recovery airframe, one aft recovery airframe), two piston assemblies for the sustainer and one for the booster, a 30" parachute for the booster, a streamer to act as a drogue for the sustainer, and a 48" chute to be the main for the sustainer. Also included there were several components such as altimeter mounts and switches to be used in relation with the electronics.

This was only my second PML kit, their 1/4 Scale Patriot being my first, and it was much more complicated. The assembly was not hard in any particular way as long as you followed the directions closely and took it one step at a time. I did have a couple of difficulties though.

First, applying the internal epoxy fillets to the fins was very difficult. I ended up using a 1/8" diameter dowel and took my time in applying the fillets. This is also made difficult by the fact that you can not get any excess epoxy on the inside of the sustainer fin can when making the fillets. If you do, you will have a very difficult time getting in the rear centering ring.

Next, the coupler for joining the fin can to the aft recovery airframe is too long. It leaves almost no room for the drogue and so it should be shorten about an inch. You also need to take care when assembling the threaded airframe couple for the use of CPR. The position and fit of the threaded aft and fore couplers need to be perfect to achieve a good, sturdy fit. Also, my piston units were very tight and required quite a bit of sanding.

One flaw in the instructions was that the assembly of the booster recovery system had been left out. This was quite easy to do without instructions and PML says that this issue will be addressed in coming instructions.

My last issue deals with the recovery systems of both the booster and the sustainer. First, the sustainer weighed in a little more than expected and since I believe the rocket to be a little heavy for this size chute in the first place, I am going to use a 54" chute instead of a 48" for the main. Finally, my booster section weighed in at almost a pound over PML's estimated weight. As it is, the 30" chute only fits in the airframe with a little bit of squeezing, but I will be upgrading the chute size to 36" and probably finding some way of packing it really small. You might also consider removing the piston unit and replacing it with just a simple Kevlar® parachute protector which would take up less space than the piston and give you more room for the chute.

Overall, construction was pretty simple, it just took a while. As long as you test fit everything, make sure you know everything that has to be done in a step, and follow the directions exactly (ask PML if you have a question or concerns) you should be fine.

One last thing, make sure you sand everywhere that epoxy will be applied to.

Thunder N' Lightning

Finishing:
For the finishing of my kit I decided to go a little overboard. First, I went through the routine sanding, cleaning, priming, sanding, cleaning, priming, sanding, and cleaning get a nice smooth surface to apply the paint to. The primer also helps the paint adhere better. Then, the first thing I did was paint the whole thing gloss black with about three coats of paint. Then I faded the bottom portion of the booster from black to white, going through red, orange, and yellow to achieve the fade. Then, on the sustainer, I airbrushed lighting bolts on around the whole thing in gloss white paint. Then I added lettering to it. To do this I first made a design in Printshop that was the size and font lettering I wanted. Then I printed out the design and transferred it to a piece of posterboard. Then I cut out each individual letter to make a painting template. I taped the template to the airframe where I wanted the lettering. The tighter you tape it to ! the airframe, the cleaner the lines of the lettering, the looser, the more faded the lettering looks. Once taped on I applied a coat of metallic gold using the airbrush to the lettering area. Then I applied a coat of metallic silver above and below the gold to give the lettering a multi-tone effect. I removed the template and voila, your own custom lettering. Finally I airbrushed storm clouds on the nose cone with lightning bolts coming from them and applied a gloss clear coat to the whole model. The clear coat may diminish the metallic effect but it really helps protect the paint from chipping on landings or during transportation.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

Lift-OffFlight:
As of May 11, 2002, Thunder N Lightning has flown. At our club's (NEPRA) second launch of the year we flew her for the first time. We loaded her up with an I357T-M in the booster and an H123W in the sustainer. The delay between booster burnout and sustainer ignition was 0 seconds. It took my father and I three hours to set up all of the electronics and load all of the motors. We were using a PML Co-Pilot for recovery deployment and an Accu-Fire timer for staging. Daveyfire e-matches dipped in pyrogen were used to ignite the upper stage. We used the pistons along with some Nomex® and motor retention was achieved using dual Aeropac motor retainers. We finally finished prepping it about 3:15 PM and we took the beast out to the pad. I was really nervous as we loaded her onto the rod, considering, that, with everything loaded, its about $700 out on the pad. We armed the electronics, checked for continuity, and got the go from the LCO to launch it even though the rest of the pads were not loaded, because we didn't want the batteries running down (Thanks again Tim). We had the countdown, and, nothing. We recycled the launch and this time the I357T lit. She kicked to life in a split second and was soon approaching 2000'. Then, the sustainer lit, just as planned, and pushed the upper stage to 3690'.

Recovery: The booster's 30" chute was deployed using motor based ejection from the I357T-M and it worked perfectly, with the booster landing, pretty hard, 15' in front of me. In the mean time we were all looking for the sustainer, but no sign of it. Finally, about 1/4 mile downrange, and 1000' up, the LCO spotted it. We all looked just in time to see the main deploy perfectly at 800'. My dad and I walked out and picked up the booster. Although it had landed hard, the Aeropac retainer and tailcone design saved it from any damage. I might upgrade to a 36" chute if winds were low. But if not, since it does not have dual deployment, I would stick with the 30" chute. Then we began our trek to the sustainer. When I got their it was beeping out 3690', just 80' shy of Rocksim's prediction, excellent! Best of all, there was no damage to either the sustainer or the booster. We took her back to the car, packed up all the recovery devices and tossed her on the back seat. When we got home, the only problem was in removing the altimeter from the tube. It was stuck! Finally, after pushing REALLY hard with a spare 29mm MMT in one end, it came loose. Actually, the O-ring just popped off. Next time, use more baby powder.

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
This is a great, complex, high quality kit. It has taught me and my father a lot. This flight was out first to use dual deployment, first to use a staging timer or do any kind of high power staging, and first I powered flight. Maybe a little much for the first time, but hey, you gotta learn sometime. I would highly recommend this kit to anyone in high power rocketry. The rush you get when those many hours of building and three hours of prepping finally pay off, is absolutely incredible. Not to mention, it sure did please a lot of people at NEPRA. BTW-If you're interested in club NEPRA please visit our website. Check us out, our club is really awesome!

Overall Rating: 4½ out of 5

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