Quest Flat Cat

Quest - Flat Cat {Kit} (3006) [1994-?]

Contributed by Hank Helmen

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Diameter: 0.79 inches
Length: 20.00 inches
Manufacturer: Quest
Skill Level: 3
Style: Glider

quest_flat-cat-finishedBrief:
This is a boost glider rocket with streamer recovery for the booster.

Construction:
The Quest Flat Cat boost glider includes an 18mm body tube for the booster as well as an engine mount kit. There are die cut balsa wings and fins. Also included in the kit is a 24" plastic recovery streamer, shock cord, plastic nose cone and decals.

The instructions were easy to follow with good illustrations. This is an easy kit to build. You have to prop one wing tip up in order to get the correct dihedral angle.

quest_flat-cat-boosteronThe Glider is delicate but it has to be light in order to fly well and it does fly very well. The wings, tail and fuselage stick were given minimal sanding, just rounding off the rough edges and smoothing out the balsa a little. There are no special tool needed. The only "gotcha" issue would be the glider to booster attachment hook.

The glider is meant to be towed to altitude by the booster, then the shock of the ejection charge knocks it loose so it can start gliding. If the hook on the booster mount is too tight the glider will not release! When all the glue and paint is dry, take the glider and assemble it to the booster. Now take the "stack" and give it a vertical shake. The glider should jump right off of the hook. If not, take some light sand paper to the booster hook to make it smooth. This works the same as the Edmonds Deltie boost glider kits.

Finishing:
The main problem with any boost glider is that you would like to paint it but paint adds unnecessary weight. It will still fly with some paint but overall flight times will probably be reduced. I added a little day-glo orange paint to one wing of my Flat Cat in order to aid in tracking and recovery spotting. By painting just one wing the glider tends to circle in a predictable flight pattern, keeping it in the field and out of the trees.

The booster was given an overall coat of Testors red spray enamel and a little Day Glo orange on the top. Be sure to give your booster a bright color to help find it down range. Also it is a good idea to have one member of your tracking team concentrate on the booster and one designated "glider tracker", BEFORE launch.

Construction Rating: 4 out of 5

quest_flat-cat-onthepadFlight:
The recommeneded motors are B6-4, C6-3 and C6-5. Our first flight was on a B4-4 which worked fine. I was a little aprehensive about putting a C6 in the booster due to the light construction of the glider but we did and it flew fine. The C6 motors produce an extended glide time! The kit includeds sticky backed aluminum foil type decals for the wings and tail. I used this to help deflect the engine exhaust on the wings only. It works.

To prepare for flight install two sheets of recovery wadding in the booster, roll the streamer and then install the motor. Hook the glider to the booster and then slide the "stack" down on the launch wire. You must use a stop of some sort to hold the bottom of the booster. If you set the glider's tail on the pad the booster will drop down and disconnect the stack. I use either a piece of tape or a clothes pin.

Next make sure that the glider is free to slide all the way up the launch wire with out hitting the clothes pin. Connect your ignition wiring and then check to see that it does not entangle the glider's vertical or horzontal fin. Sounds complicated but once you've done it, there's nothing to it.

On launch expect to see an arch perhaps even a loop. This is typical of most boost gliders. Less loop is better. On ejection firing the glider seperates away and glide in a large graceful circle. Lots of fun!

Recovery:
The booster's yellow streamer that was supplied with the kit disappeared on the first fligtht! All that was left was a shred of yellow plastic attached to the shock cord.

Watch your glider closely if it is undulating up and then dropping repeatedly, add a couple of 1/8 inch balls of clay to the nose. If it dives steeply in, pinch off a little clay from the nose. If it flies straight away, add a little paint or clay to one wing tip for a wide circle.

Flight Rating: 4 out of 5

Summary:
This is a great boost glider. Make a good first rocket glider or in the hands of an expert it could be very competitive.

Overall Rating: 3 out of 5

Other:
It is fun to build two and have "fly off's" with someone timing the flight using a stop watch. Rubber band airplane model builders have "postal" flight contests where they record their flight times and then send them in to one person to "judge" the winners. Might be a good idea for EMRR to sponser a glider endurance "postal" contest?

Other Reviews
  • Quest Flat Cat By Jim Bassham and Edie Parkhouse (June 28, 2010)

    Brief: The Flat Cat is a classic boost glider with a streamer-recovery pod. Construction: Parts List: Launch lug 18mm motor tube 8.5 inch body tube Thrust Ring Plastic nose cone and base 24inch streamer and gripper tab Balsa fuselage Balsa pylon Three sheets of die-cut parts Motor mount Trim clay Elastic shock cord Kevlar ® ...

  • Quest Flat Cat By Chris Taylor Jr. (November 5, 2008)

    Packaging:  Plastic bag with cardboard display picture.   The Parts: Lots of very nice, high-quality, thick balsa wood. No skimpy stuff here. This is going to be one tough glider!  Standard Pop-pod Glider. Basically a short, finless rocket that attaches the nose of the glider with a one-way hook, I. e. go up and it hooks, go back and it falls off. The motor's ejection ...

  • Quest Flat Cat By Matt Gillard (December 30, 2007)

    Brief: A pop pod glider for B and C motors. The design is tried and tested and there are two levels of finish: one simple one that is a quick glue together without any airfoils, which is where the flat part of its name comes from, and a second where there is a great deal of sanding involved. Quest puts this rocket at a skill level three which is about right for the airfoil version ...

  • Quest Flat Cat By Mitch Marchi (December 14, 2007)

    Brief: Low power rocket booster with streamer recovery and glider flight recovery. Construction: Rocket booster is basically an 18mm minimum diameter rocket with a balsa "hook" assembly on it instead of fins. Glider is comprised completely of balsa. Wings and stabilizer are 1/8", fuselage is 1/4" x 1/2". The instructions were good, except that ...

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Comments:

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B.M. (August 1, 2000)
The Flat Cat was my first glider kit in 20 years. I found it easy to assemble, but I had reservations about the quality of the wood. The glider wings were some of the heaviest C-grain balsa I have ever seen. (I have a background in model airplanes, and have flown hand launched gliders.) I figured that maybe they used the heavier wood to stand up to the stresses of launching... I was wrong. My glider flies like a brick. I put a light finish on it, but it is just too heavy. Because it is so heavy, it was difficult to trim. Also the high weight translates into high flight speeds, and it breaks somewhere after every flight because it is hits the ground so fast. I'm planning to scratch build another glider, using contest grade balsa. The quality of balsa in kits can vary widely, from light A grain to heavy C-grain. I think the design is good. After reading other's comments, I must have gotten a kit with not-so-great balsa. I found the adhesive on the stickers to be weak-- they wouldn't stay down.
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R.J. (September 1, 2000)
I agree that the stickers adhered poorly. I decided to spray the top of the wings with spray adhesive (masking off the rest of the cat) then putting aluminum foil on top of the adhesive, trimming off the excess afterwards. Looks great.
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B.M. (October 1, 2000)
Update to my comments from 8/00: I made a new set of wings from lighter wood. My glider now flies great. My original needed some tail weight to balance the model. When I put the new wing on, I moved it back about an inch, which allowed me to lose the tail weight. The glider flies so much better! I flew it on an A8-3 and it flew nicely. I then tried a B6-2, and it flew so well I lost the glider. I will definitely be building another one! BTW, I did not bother with the mylar to protect the top of the wing. In my first 2 flights, I saw no sign of exhaust residue.
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(December 1, 2000)
I agree with the comments above. I too replaced the heavy balsa wings with thinner stock and gave them a good airfoil. I have launched my Flatcat 9 times now and it worked great on every flight except on an A engine. B6-2s are the best to use. The C engines work, but you'll risk never seeing it again unless you trim the glider for a nice, slow curve. Overall a very nice kit and a real crowd pleaser!P.D.M.
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HWH (November 9, 2008)
Good review very accurate. I built and flew this kit. It flies GREAT, just don't fly it on a windy day. A helpful hint: definitely put a little turn on your glider by adding a pinch of clay to one wing tip. Also a touch of Day-Glo orange paint or marker on wing tips and/or tail helps in recovery in tall grass. The suggestion to trace the glider wings and tail patterns before assembly (to make spares) is a good one! All in all, this is a great flier. We have "fly offs" between this and our Deltie B.

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