Quest Navaho AGM

Quest - Navaho AGM {Kit} (3003)

Contributed by Tai Fu

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Diameter: 0.98 inches
Length: 20.25 inches
Manufacturer: Quest
Skill Level: 3
Style: Scale

Rocket PicBrief:
Navaho is a 2 staged rocket made by Quest. I bought this in Hobby Lobby because I thought I'd give a 2- stage another chance (the first one failed me by coming down in flames after stage separated).

Construction:
The rocket comes in a clear plastic bag just like most Estes rockets. No broken parts. I kinda liked the tab mounting of parachutes because it's easier to put on, however, it's not as strong as Este's method.

You basically glue fins and etc. together with white or yellow glue, and the instructions are easy to follow. You have to glue the forward fins to match the instructions because forward fins could cause stability problems.

One thing that is not in the instruction is that you MUST drill vent holes right below the sustainer because the gas has to vent to prevent premature staging which results in not igniting the motor. I like the way Quest arranges the stages better than Este's method.

Finishing:
I used white spray paint then brushed the other colors on, which results in ugly looking fins. I hate the decal because it's like the kind used on HPR and they are too thick and hard to seal. I'd really like it if it used water transfer decals which are easy to seal. Another thing is that I tried to match the decal placement to the original packing but then the rocket is too short!!! So I had to end up not putting the rest of the decals on....

Construction Rating: 3 out of 5

Flight:
First flight, I used A8-3 and I used Pratt Hobbie's Heatshield that protects your chute, so no wadding. It was great, the chute did not even burn and I never have to waste waddings. (On another flight on another rocket with regular waddings the chutes burned). Two kids saw me and I told them they can watch if they wanted to. So they did, and I proceeded to launch the rocket with a B6-0 and a A8-3 (I didn't want to use B6-6...) and when I press the launch button, it was fun! The rocket sort of arced over and then second stage ignited flawlessly, after second stage, rocket disappeared! Luckily the two kids who were watching had a sharp eye and found my rocket close to someone's home. Again no burned chute, I really liked Pratt Hobbie's flameproof cloth, and I will buy one for every rocket in the future.

Flight Update on 11/99:my third flight was on a B6-0 and a C6-2 and the second stage disappeared from the sky and was never seen again. The booster was recovered with a broken fin....

Recovery:
Recovery was perfect, except that on the two-stage flight the rocket disappeared and I thought I lost it...

Flight Rating: 5 out of 5

Summary:
2-stage is really fun, but I heard Estes is discontinuing their upper stage and booster stage product (motors) leaving folks like me with nowhere to go because it seems like Estes is the only one making booster (motors)....

Overall Rating: 4 out of 5

Other Reviews
  • Quest Navaho AGM By Jason Orosco (April 11, 2009)

    Brief: Quest Navaho AGM is a 2-stage rocket with a 14" parachute. It's rated as a level III model kit. This is my first Quest rocket I've built. I decided to try a different 2-stage rocket kit. Construction: I was very impressed with the quality of the parts. The parts list: 1 14" White Body Tube 1 3" White Body Tube 2 Motor Clips 2 Blue ...

  • Quest Navaho AGM By Jim Bassham (February 24, 2009)

    Brief: Two-stage scale rocket. Construction: Paper tubes, die-cut balsa fins, plastic nose cone, Kevlar ® /elastic shock cord. Motor retaining clips. This was a really straightforward kit that went together easily. The instructions were well written and clear. The assembly went smoothly. This kit is designed like other Quest kits with their Kevlar ® shock cord ...

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Comments:

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D.K. (November 1, 1999)
The Quest rockets are often more interesting than Estes kits, and the Navaho is no exception. The price for this is that they are sometimes a little less rugged and need a little more 'babying' to get them to work right. But the Navaho is actually one of their better ones. We sent the Navaho up on successively more rocket power. It kept giving us good, straight flights so we went to the maximum recommended C6-0, C6-7 combination. We figured it would go over 2000 feet, so we put in a streamer instead of the supplied parachute so it would stay in our area code. We had a clear day and lots of club people around to help watch. It definitely went over 2000 feet, and out of sight. I put a lot of talcum powder on the wadding, so a club member just caught it at ejection. We launch on a grassy field, so the fairly fast decent on the streamer resulted in no damage on landing. It really goes. The staging and recovery worked perfectly on every launch.
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T.E.B. (October 26, 2001)
This was a fun rocket to build, but I didn't notice that it's a good four inches shorter than it should be until after I had it all finished and was putting on the decals! There must have been a mistake with the main body tube length when the kits were being made as the reviewer had the same problem. (Wonder if they were cutting using metric units when the instructions were using inches?) I did add a section of tube to the top of the rocket with a coupler, but the result is that the decals are now placed wrong. It won't be up to contest standards this way so I guess it won't be entered in any scale events. It makes up for the spoiled decals in the flying, though - it flies great!
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N.A.S. (November 9, 2001)
Flight: 10/27/01 The reviewer seems pretty well right on. This was the first kit I built since reentering rocketry. All went smoothly for me, having flown *a lot* of rockets as a kid. I agree whole-heartedly with the comments regarding the decals, but I found no issues with not having vent hole for the staging. I only got three flights out of it, losing it on the third flight c6-0 to c6-7), but all three flights staged perfectly. I'm not sure if it was due to the tube being too short, but the flights seemed only marginally stable during the first stage boost, with a little bit of wobble, but it flew like an arrow after staging. The streamer is the way to go, if you have a soft field, especially if you are flying a C-C combination. It really goes! Overall, I thought it was a great kit and definately had "one up" on the Estes kits I have built in the strength of the recovery design (using kevlar attached to the moter mount).
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C.C.C. (December 7, 2001)
My parents bought me this rocket one friday night when I was bored. The construction is simple and not of Skill Level three difficulty. But the finishing is another thing. The painting itself is easy but placing the decals proved to be quite difficult. The Decals themselves are cheap. The coloring on them smears when you place them on and try to smooth them. But after the clear coat they proved to be adequate. One thing that I like from all Quest kits is the Kevlar shock-cord system and the easy grip tabs for the recovery system. This kit needs a streamer instead of a parachute. But overall it was fun to build.
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R.B. (February 11, 2005)
My first two-stage since returning to rockets after a 25 year hiatus. Nice kit, however, the fins which came with the kit were terrible (mine were probably the exception, gotta happen eventually). Made my own fins (correct balsa size and of course, proper grain direction), and all went well from there. Of course, time and patience are a must to achieve exact fin alignment with 12 fins. Would prefer water-slide decals, but the rocket still looks nice after several clear coats. (Note: my kit was correct length, no issue with decal placement). Flight-wise, I am very pleased. Super-straight, stable flights. I did not make a vent hole. Staging has been flawless so far. Used traditional wadding, perfect chute deployment with zero chute burn. Used smaller chute than the 14" one that came with the kit. With the altitude this rocket achieves and its light weight, a big chute is a recipe for a far-away landing. Very positive experience with this rocket and will be very disappointed if I ever lose this one.
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M.A. (September 27, 2009)
This is a great kit. It is the first 2-stage rocket I have built in 40 years. I built it stock and found it to be a very sound and tough rocket. I did not drill any vent holes and it staged without any problems. I had a little problem with the coupler and I had to cut about 3/4 inch off to make it fit flush. The finish of the tube was OK. I used CA glue to tack down the fins until I could run a fillet on them. The paper covering tore a little, but after filleting the fins with Elmer's glue they held fine. The first flight I used a C6-0 and a C6-5. The booster fired and the rocket left the pad with a little wobble. The sustainer fired and the stages separated perfectly. The second stage flew out of sight and I lost sight of it but luckily some of the others at the launch spotted it and it landed about 100 feet from the pad. The booster landed on a dirt road and cracked a fin. It was repaired on site. The parachute didn't fully inflate, but it acted as a streamer and it landed just right. I would recommend this kit for anyone that flies rockets no matter their skill level. This is a cheap and easy kit to build and it is a lot of fun to fly. I would like to see this rocket made big enough to fly on 24mm motors.

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